The Road to Autonomy

Gil West, CEO of Hertz, joined Grayson Brulte on The Road to Autonomy podcast to discuss the launch of Oro Mobility and how a century of fleet operations is helping robotaxis to scale.
A robotaxi parked is a depreciating asset, and the attention goes to the driving while the margin hides everywhere else. Cleaning, charging, maintaining, and positioning the vehicle is the part nobody wants and the part that decides the economics.
Oro Mobility was built to own that work. It is an asset-heavy operating company sitting on Hertz infrastructure, 2,700 chargers, more than 11,000 service locations, and a footprint across roughly 160 countries. Oro owns and operates fleets, human-driven and autonomous, and supplies them turnkey to B2B partners including Uber and Nuro in a manner that Gil frames as the connective tissue between the demand aggregators, the technology companies, and the OEMs, the supply layer for the future of mobility.
That positioning reshapes how the autonomy economy scales. A robotaxi company no longer has to build depots, charging, and a service network from scratch, something Mr. West says could take decades and billions of dollars to replicate.
Over time, Hertz plans to hold robotaxis on its balance sheet as both owner and operator, sweat each asset through the peaks, service it through the valleys, and run the same footprint across rideshare, delivery, and autonomy.

Episode Chapters
00:00 Hertz's Turnaround
1:18 Oro Mobility
4:43 Hertz's Infrastructure Advantage
13:29 Robotaxi Technicians
15:36 Robotaxis and Rideshare are Complementary
19:27 Infrastructure Permitting
22:26 Peaks and Valleys of Assets Ownership
25:47 Inspiration for Oro Mobility
28:28 Hertz as a Platform Business
30:28 Managing the Turnaround
34:21 Defining Success for Oro Mobility
35:22 Hertz Over the Next Century
37:03 AUTNMY AI

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About The Road to Autonomy
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This week on Autonomy Markets, Grayson Brulte and Walter Piecyk discuss WeRide trying to catch up to Waymo globally, Waymo preparing to deploy Chinese-made robotaxis in Texas and the CEO of FedEx Freight's open embracement of autonomous trucking.
As WeRide and Uber continue to expand throughout Europe and the Middle East together, Waymo continues to work towards deploying the Chinese-made Zeekr robotaxis now called the Ojai, with data suggesting they are now in Texas, in a politically risky move.
FedEx Freight CEO John Smith declared autonomous trucks ready for prime time, a signal Grayson reads alongside Amazon entering the freight business and Uber selling down another stake in Aurora. With Amazon running one of the most sophisticated freight networks in the world and FedEx now a standalone public company, the pressure on Uber Freight is building.
Wrapping up the conversation, Grayson and Walt Uber's continued European push by partnering with Autobrains on a Munich robotaxi service pending regulatory approval, and Saudi Arabia's PIF-backed Humain partnered with NVIDIA to deploy robotaxis in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia.

Episode Chapters
00:00 SpaceX IPO
3:53 WeRide and Uber Expand Across Europe
7:39 Waymo Registers 45 Zeekrs in Texas
10:30 Waymo's New Tampa Depot
15:36 Uber Sells Down Its Aurora Stake
16:33 Why Amazon Hasn't Bought an Autonomous Trucking Company?
23:04 Avride Robotaxis in Texas
25:26 Serve Robotics Moves Into Laundry
26:29 Ferrari Rules Out Autonomy
28:56 Foreign Autonomy Desk
30:27 Next Week

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About The Road to Autonomy
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Through our podcasts, newsletter, and proprietary applied intelligence, we set the narrative for institutional investors, industry executives, and policymakers navigating the convergence of automation, autonomy, and economic growth.
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This week on Autonomy Signals, Grayson Brulte and Rob Grant discuss Uber's OEM-agnostic robotaxi strategy in Europe, FedEx Freight CEO's declaration that autonomous trucks are ready for prime time, and the AUKUS alliance accelerating undersea autonomy.
At GTC Taipei, Uber, Autobrains, and NVIDIA announced a strategic collaboration to launch a robotaxi program in Munich, pending regulatory approval, built on Autobrains' agentic AI and the NVIDIA DRIVE Hyperion Level 4 platform. With no German OEM attached and Stellantis the likely production partner, the move extends Uber's asset-light playbook of contributing its demand network while pushing vehicle CapEx off its balance sheet and onto its partners.
On June 1st, FedEx Freight began trading as an independent standalone company, and CEO John Smith stated that its autonomous tractor-trailers can run yard to interstate to facility with 99.9% autonomy. By framing the primary barrier to commercialization as regulatory rather than technical, Mr. Smith flipped the industry narrative from can we build it to will we be allowed to use it.
Then there is AUKUS, where Australia, the United States, and the United Kingdom formally initiated a trilateral project to develop unmanned undersea vehicles with an aggressive 2027 delivery target. The UUVs are designed for reconnaissance, strike, anti-submarine warfare, and protection of critical infrastructure like undersea cables, signaling that autonomy is no longer just a commercial endeavor but a core pillar of national security, though trilateral interoperability and contested deep-sea environments pose real execution risk.

Episode Chapters
00:00 Signal 1: Uber's European Robotaxi Strategy
33:19 Signal 2: AUKUS Accelerates Unmanned Undersea Autonomy
56:16 Signal 3: FedEx Freight CEO Flips the Script
01:09:26 AUTNMY AI

Autonomy Signals is presented by KPMG.

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Ryan Joyce, Co-Founder and CEO, GenLogs joined Grayson Brulte on The Road to Autonomy podcast to discuss how the intelligence community’s playbook is being applied to trucking, building a ground truth layer for freight.
For nearly two decades, Ryan recruited assets inside terrorist networks as a CIA case officer, validating in the physical world what sources claimed in the digital one. The trucking industry runs on the same data gap. Carriers self-report, telematics that can be modified, and bad actors claim trucks that are not on the road, with no one able to prove otherwise.
GenLogs closes that gap with a nationwide network of privacy-enabled roadside cameras capturing just shy of twenty million images a day. The system uniquely fingerprints every truck in America and tracks it through changed DOT numbers, new decals, and swapped plates, exposing the chameleon carriers that burn down one identity and spin up another.
That ground truth is reshaping how insurers underwrite risk, how brokers vet carriers, and how law enforcement recovers stolen freight. In one case, partial trailer data was enough to track and recover a trafficked minor. The same correlation engine now maps where every autonomous trucking company operates, which lanes they run, and whose trailers they pull.
The future of freight will not be won by the operators who trust the digital record. It will be won by the operators who verify it against the ground truth.

Episode Chapters
00:00 From Tracking Terrorists to Tracking Trucks
04:10 Building the Ground Truth Camera Network
07:32 The Verification Layer for Insurance
11:01 The Scale of Cargo Theft and Fraud
14:16 Anomaly Detection and the Intelligence Playbook
18:34 Combating Human Trafficking
21:41 Fingerprinting Every Truck in America
26:22 90-Day Snapshot of Six Autonomous Trucking Companies
34:48 Protecting High-Value Loads
41:13 The Future of GenLogs in an Autonomous Fleet
45:04 AUTNMY AI

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About The Road to Autonomy
The Road to Autonomy is the leading applied intelligence platform covering the convergence of automation, autonomy, and the Autonomy Economy.™.
Through our podcasts, newsletter, and proprietary applied intelligence, we set the narrative for institutional investors, industry executives, and policymakers navigating the convergence of automation, autonomy, and economic growth.
Join institutional investors and industry leaders who read This Week in The Autonomy Economy every Sunday. Each edition delivers exclusive insight and commentary on the autonomy economy, helping you stay ahead of what's next.
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This week on Autonomy Markets, Grayson Brulte and Walter Piecyk discuss Waymo’s widening lead, the Ojai (Chinese-made Zeekr robotaxi) rollout’s political fault lines, and the new Texas autonomous vehicle and truck database.
Waymo is actively preparing to deploy a fleet of Chinese-made Zeekrs across California and Arizona, now renamed Ojai, in blue and purple states, not a red state, at least not yet. Sticking to his original call that the Zeekr is an unforced error, Grayson lays out the emerging split where Jaguars head to red states and Zeekrs head to blue and purple ones.
With Magna now producing roughly 250 vehicles a month, Waymo is on pace for 6,000 cars by year-end, and Walt argues the real unlock comes when the sensor stack gets cheaper and Waymo begins to add more than 1,000 new vehicles a month on the road.
In Texas, the Texas Department of Motor Vehicles launched the Automated Motor Vehicle Lookup, where any member of the public can look up the fleet size of any AV operator in the state along with any complaints that might be filed.
Wrapping up the conversation, Grayson and Walt discussed the launch of Wayve Labs, Zoox getting an undeserved pass thanks to Amazon and BYD’s willingness to compensate owners when God’s Eye is engaged during an incident.

Episode Chapters
00:00 Waymo Deploys the Ojai
06:40 Waymo Production Math
08:55 Waymo's Expanding Lead
15:15 Texas Automated Motor Vehicle Lookup
25:00 Wayve Labs
32:10 3,760 Miles Across Canada. No Interventions.
36:15 Zoox Gets a Pass
39:15 Foreign Autonomy Desk
40:20 Next Week

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About The Road to Autonomy
The Road to Autonomy is the leading applied intelligence platform covering the convergence of automation, autonomy, and the Autonomy Economy.™.
Through our podcasts, newsletter, and proprietary applied intelligence, we set the narrative for institutional investors, industry executives, and policymakers navigating the convergence of automation, autonomy, and economic growth.
Join institutional investors and industry leaders who read This Week in The Autonomy Economy every Sunday. Each edition delivers exclusive insight and commentary on the autonomy economy, helping you stay ahead of what's next.
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