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This interview was recorded for GOTO Unscripted.https://gotopia.techRead the full transcription of this interview here:https://gotopia.tech/articles/408Michael Nygard - Chief Architect at Nubank & Author of "Release It!"Charles Humble - Freelance Techie, Podcaster, Editor, Author & ConsultantFULL TALK TITLEBuilding Software That Survives: Autonomy, Architecture & Alignment at ScaleRESOURCESMichaelhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/mtnygardhttps://twitter.com/mtnygardhttp://www.michaelnygard.comCharleshttps://bsky.app/profile/charleshumble.bsky.socialhttps://linkedin.com/in/charleshumblehttps://mastodon.social/@charleshumblehttps://conissaunce.comDESCRIPTIONMichael Nygard, author of the influential "Release It!" and Chief Architect at Nuank, discusses his journey from programmer to technical leader.In this conversation, he shares insights from major transformation projects at Sabre and Nubank, exploring the nuances of centralization versus autonomy, the often-misunderstood implications of Conway's Law, and how architectural boundaries can reduce the need for constant organizational alignment.He emphasizes that effective technical leadership involves more than reorganizations - it requires understanding communication structures, celebrating the right behaviors, and creating systems that enable teams to operate independently within well-defined boundaries.RECOMMENDED BOOKSMichael Nygard • Release It! 2nd Edition • https://amzn.to/3WJeKV8Michael Nygard • Release It! 1st Edition • https://amzn.to/3XCkiRfRichard Monson-Haefel • 97 Things Every Software Architect Should Know • https://amzn.to/3JdRYU2Charles Humble • Professional Skills for Software Engineers • https://www.conissaunce.com/professional-skills-shortcutPatterson, Grenny, McMillan & Switzler • Crucial Conversations • https://amzn.to/3LhGHTaYevgeniy Brikman • Fundamentals of DevOps and Software Delivery • https://amzn.to/3WMPMFUTod Golding • Building Multi-Tenant SaaS Architectures • https://amzn.to/3YfM49oJacqui Read • Communication Patterns • https://amzn.to/3E37lvvMatthew Skelton & Manuel Pais • Team Topologies • http://amzn.to/3sVLyLQJames Stanier • Become an Effective Software Engineering Manager • https://amzn.to/3vHrx1EBlueskyTwitterInstagramLinkedInFacebookCHANNEL MEMBERSHIP BONUSJoin this channel to get early access to videos & other perks:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCs_tLP3AiwYKwdUHpltJPuA/joinLooking for a unique learning experience?Attend the next GOTO conference near you! Get your ticket: gotopia.techSUBSCRIBE TO OUR YOUTUBE CHANNEL - new videos posted daily!

This interview was recorded for the GOTO Book Club.http://gotopia.tech/bookclubCheck out more here:https://gotopia.tech/episodes/405Yevgeniy "Jim" Brikman - Author of "Fundamentals of DevOps and Software Delivery" & Co-Founder of GruntworkKief Morris - Author of "Infrastructure as Code" & Distinguished Engineer at ThoughtworksRESOURCESYevgeniy (Jim)https://bsky.app/profile/brikis98.bsky.socialhttps://twitter.com/brikis98https://github.com/brikis98/https://www.linkedin.com/in/jbrikmanhttps://www.ybrikman.comKiefhttps://bsky.app/profile/kief.comhttps://twitter.com/kiefhttps://github.com/kiefhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/kiefmorrishttps://infrastructure-as-code.comhttps://kief.comLinkhttps://terragrunt.gruntwork.ioDESCRIPTIONYevgeniy (Jim) Brikman, author of "Fundamentals of DevOps and Software Delivery", discusses his journey from app developer to DevOps advocate, triggered by LinkedIn's deployment crisis that required freezing all product development for months. The discussion with Kief Morris explores the practical definition of DevOps as efficient software delivery methodology, the relationship between infrastructure as code and application orchestration tools, the necessity of frameworks over custom wrapper scripts, and emerging paradigms including infrastructure from code, infrastructure as graph models, and interactive runbooks.Jim emphasizes that while new approaches are interesting, maturity and standardization in existing tools often provides more value than constantly chasing new technologies.RECOMMENDED BOOKSYevgeniy Brikman • Fundamentals of DevOps and Software Delivery • https://amzn.to/3WMPMFUYevgeniy Brikman • Terraform: Up and Running • https://amzn.to/4otpxQLYevgeniy Brikman • Hello, Startup • https://amzn.to/3JmV0VRKief Morris • Infrastructure as Code • https://amzn.to/4e6EBQcMauricio Salatino • Platform Engineering on Kubernetes • https://amzn.to/3X14qZKCharity Majors, Liz Fong-Jones & George Miranda • Observability Engineering • https://amzn.to/38scbmaBlueskyTwitterInstagramLinkedInFacebookCHANNEL MEMBERSHIP BONUSJoin this channel to get early access to videos & other perks:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCs_tLP3AiwYKwdUHpltJPuA/joinLooking for a unique learning experience?Attend the next GOTO conference near you! Get your ticket: gotopia.techSUBSCRIBE TO OUR YOUTUBE CHANNEL - new videos posted daily!

This interview was recorded for the GOTO Book Club.http://gotopia.tech/bookclubCheck out more here:https://gotopia.tech/episodes/401Fabrizio Romano - Development Manager at Sohonet & Co-Author of "Learning Python Programming"Naomi Ceder - Python Instruction and Consulting & Author of "The Quick Python Book"RESOURCESFabriziohttps://x.com/gianchubhttps://github.com/gianchubhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/gianchubNaomihttps://bsky.app/profile/naomiceder.techhttps://github.com/ncederhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/naomicederhttps://www.naomiceder.techLinkhttps://adventofcode.comDESCRIPTIONNaomi Ceder interviews Fabrizio Romano, author of "Learning Python Programming" (now in its 4th edition). They discuss Fabrizio’s decade-long journey as a Python programmer and book author, exploring how his perspectives have evolved across multiple editions.Key topics include the shift from GUI-focused content to command-line applications, the controversial introduction of typing in Python, the rise of AI in coding, and the importance of educating junior developers. Fabrizio emphasizes the balance between embracing new tools like AI while maintaining fundamental programming skills and the human element in software development.RECOMMENDED BOOKSFabrizio Romano & Heinrich Kruger • Learning Python Programming • https://amzn.to/4myLBItNaomi Ceder • The Quick Python Book • https://amzn.to/3zwdDOaLuciano Ramalho • Fluent Python • https://amzn.to/3oSw2jeDavid Beazley • Python Distilled (Developer's Library) • https://amzn.to/3QjNBEvAnna Skoulikari • Learning Git • https://amzn.to/4cSl8lzSy Brand • Building a Debugger • https://amzn.to/4cWWr84BlueskyTwitterInstagramLinkedInFacebookCHANNEL MEMBERSHIP BONUSJoin this channel to get early access to videos & other perks:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCs_tLP3AiwYKwdUHpltJPuA/joinLooking for a unique learning experience?Attend the next GOTO conference near you! Get your ticket: gotopia.techSUBSCRIBE TO OUR YOUTUBE CHANNEL - new videos posted daily!

This interview was recorded for the GOTO Book Club.http://gotopia.tech/bookclubCheck out more here:https://gotopia.tech/episodes/402Albert S. Tanure - Cross Solutions Architec at Microsoft & Author of "ASP.NET Core 9 Essentials"Rafael Herik de Carvalho - Platform & DevOps Engineering at DevoteamRESOURCESAlberthttps://x.com/alberttanurehttps://github.com/tanurehttps://www.linkedin.com/in/albert-tanurehttps://www.codefc.io/enRafaelhttps://x.com/rafaelherikhttps://github.com/rafaelherikhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/rafaelh-carvalhohttps://dev.to/rafaelherikDESCRIPTIONMicrosoft Solutions Architect Albert Tanure explores his approach to writing "ASP.NET Core 9 Essentials", a guide designed to take developers from basic .NET concepts to advanced cloud-native application development. Albert emphasizes the intentional structure of starting with foundations before introducing best practices, covering the complete application lifecycle from UI development and APIs to deployment, monitoring, and cloud operations.The conversation highlights how modern development requires understanding not just coding, but also DevOps practices, observability with tools like OpenTelemetry, dynamic configurations, containers, and cloud-native principles. The book serves both beginners seeking solid foundations and experienced developers looking to understand modern deployment strategies, with particular emphasis on chapters 9-11 that cover cloud native mindsets and operational considerations.RECOMMENDED BOOKSAlbert Tanure • ASP.NET Core 9 Essentials • https://amzn.to/43bH73tMark J. Price • Real-World Web Development with .NET 9 • https://amzn.to/46ZKsnwMark J. Price • C# 13 and .NET 9 – Modern Cross-Platform Development Fundamentals • https://amzn.to/4o5E5FZFabrizio Romano & Heinrich Kruger • Learning Python Programming • https://amzn.to/4myLBItBlueskyTwitterInstagramLinkedInFacebookCHANNEL MEMBERSHIP BONUSJoin this channel to get early access to videos & other perks:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCs_tLP3AiwYKwdUHpltJPuA/joinLooking for a unique learning experience?Attend the next GOTO conference near you! Get your ticket: gotopia.techSUBSCRIBE TO OUR YOUTUBE CHANNEL - new videos posted daily!

This interview was recorded for GOTO Unscripted.https://gotopia.techCheck out more here:https://gotopia.tech/articles/400David Whitney - Director of Architecture at NewDayIan Cooper - A Polyglot Coding Architect at Just EatHannes Lowette - Principal Consultant at Axxes, Monolith Advocate, Speaker & Whiskey LoverRESOURCESDavidhttps://bsky.app/profile/davidwhitney.co.ukhttp://twitter.com/david_whitneyhttps://www.instagram.com/davidwhitneycoukhttps://github.com/davidwhitneyhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/davidwhitneyhttps://davidwhitney.co.uk/blogIanhttps://bsky.app/profile/icooper.bsky.socialhttps://hachyderm.io/@ICooperhttps://twitter.com/ICooperhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/ian-cooper-2b059bhttps://github.com/iancooperhttps://ian-cooper.writeas.comDESCRIPTIONThree experienced software engineers - Ian Cooper, David Whitney, and Hannes Lowette - discuss the evolution of software architecture from traditional "ivory tower" approaches to modern, collaborative practices. The conversation explores the tension between emergent and designed architecture, the importance of sustainable versus "slash-and-burn" development approaches, and how architectural decisions scale with organizational growth.Key themes include the critical role of communication and coaching in architecture, the dangers of pattern cargo-culting, and the fundamental reality that all architectural challenges are ultimately people problems requiring empathy, shared language, and cultural change.RECOMMENDED BOOKSBarry O'Reilly • Residues • https://leanpub.com/residualityBarry O'Reilly • The Architect's Paradox • https://leanpub.com/architectsparadoxDiana Montalion • Learning Systems Thinking • https://amzn.to/3ZpycdJSam Newman • Monolith to Microservices • https://amzn.to/2Nml96ERonnie Mitra & Irakli Nadareishvili • Microservices: Up and Running• https://amzn.to/3c4HmmLJacqui Read • Communication Patterns • https://amzn.to/3E37lvvVaughn Vernon & Tomasz Jaskula • Strategic Monoliths & Microservices • https://amzn.to/3AcUscjBlueskyTwitterInstagramLinkedInFacebookCHANNEL MEMBERSHIP BONUSJoin this channel to get early access to videos & other perks:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCs_tLP3AiwYKwdUHpltJPuA/joinLooking for a unique learning experience?Attend the next GOTO conference near you! Get your ticket: gotopia.techSUBSCRIBE TO OUR YOUTUBE CHANNEL - new videos posted daily!