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(01:02:13) - Mark Gurman is a technology journalist and Apple analyst best known for his reporting on Apple’s products, strategy, and internal decision-making. He is the author of Bloomberg’s Power On newsletter, where he consistently breaks news on iPhone, Mac, Vision Pro, and Apple’s executive and product roadmap—often months or years ahead of official announcements.

(01:55:41) - Miles Brundage, Executive Director of the AI Verification and Evaluation Research Institute (AVERI), discusses the critical need for independent auditing of AI systems to ensure their safety and security, drawing parallels to established practices in other industries. He outlines four key risk categories: unintended system behaviors, misuse of AI systems, emergent social phenomena, and traditional security issues, emphasizing the importance of rigorous third-party evaluations to address these challenges. Brundage also highlights AVERI's role as a nonprofit think tank dedicated to developing standards and fostering collaboration among stakeholders to build a robust AI auditing industry.

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(02:31:08) - Aidan Smith & Asher Spector, co-founders of Flapping Airplanes, an AI lab focused on data efficiency, discusses their goal of training human-level intelligent models without consuming vast amounts of data. They emphasize the importance of creating data-efficient AI systems to facilitate easier integration into the economy and to address challenges in data-constrained fields like robotics and scientific discovery. Smith also highlights the lab's commitment to foundational research before commercialization, aiming to solve significant problems in AI data efficiency.

(02:42:48) - Alex Dhillon, founder and CEO of Outtake, a cybersecurity startup, discusses the company's recent $40 million Series B funding led by ICONIQ, with participation from notable investors like Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella and Palo Alto Networks CEO Nikesh Arora. He highlights Outtake's mission to combat the surge in AI-driven impersonation and fraud by providing a unified platform that enables enterprises and government agencies to detect, investigate, and disrupt identity-based threats across digital channels. Dhillon emphasizes the importance of reducing the return on investment for digital criminals by swiftly removing fake content, thereby maintaining high digital trust for institutions.

(02:55:24) - Mitchell Angove, founder of Feanix, discusses how his company utilizes whole-genome sequencing and AI to help dairy farmers manage their cows more efficiently. By analyzing genetic and phenotypic data, Feanix's AI models predict a cow's life outcomes with about 90% accuracy, enabling farmers to make informed decisions on breeding and health management. Angove also mentions that Feanix has raised over $5 million in seed funding and is rapidly scaling, currently managing close to half a million cows.

(03:01:26) - Gabriel Stengel, CEO and co-founder of Rogo, a generative AI platform for finance professionals, discusses the company's recent $75 million Series C funding led by Sequoia Capital. He explains how Rogo enhances productivity for investment bankers by automating tasks like building PowerPoints and benchmarking comps, allowing them to focus on interpersonal aspects such as negotiation and client relationships. Stengel also highlights the evolution of Rogo's capabilities over the past two years, noting significant improvements in model quality and integration into various financial workflows, including back-office operations.

(03:12:26) - Sierra Peterson, co-founder of Voyager Ventures, an early-stage venture capital firm, discusses her extensive 21-year career in energy, including roles at the International Energy Agency and the Obama White House. She highlights Voyager's focus on investing in foundational technologies such as energy, transportation, materials production, and AI, emphasizing the firm's recent $275 million Fund II aimed at advancing these sectors. Peterson also addresses the rapid advancements in electrification and solar energy, underscoring their potential to drive global economic growth and resilience.

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This is our full interview with Peter Steinberger, his first public appearance since launching Clawdbot, recorded live on TBPN.

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Described by The New York Times as “Silicon Valley’s newest obsession,” TBPN has recently featured Mark Zuckerberg, Sam Altman, Mark Cuban, and Satya Nadella.
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Described by The New York Times as “Silicon Valley’s newest obsession,” the show has recently featured Mark Zuckerberg, Sam Altman, Mark Cuban, and Satya Nadella.

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(01:14:30) - Jamie Cuffe, founder and CEO of Pace, an AI operations partner for leading insurers, announced the company's $10 million Series A funding led by Sequoia Capital. He discussed Pace's role in automating back-office operations for major insurers like Prudential and The Mutual Group, focusing on tasks such as new business intake, policy servicing, and claims processing. Cuffe highlighted the company's approach of converting standard operating procedures into natural language instructions for AI agents, enabling efficient and scalable automation of complex insurance workflows.

(01:28:57) - Ben Lerer, a native New Yorker, is the co-founder and managing partner of Lerer Hippeau Ventures, an early-stage venture capital firm, and the founder of Thrillist, a digital media company. In the conversation, he reflects on his journey from launching Thrillist during New York's nascent tech scene to navigating the challenges of scaling a media business amid evolving digital landscapes. He emphasizes the importance of staying true to one's passion, the pitfalls of overextending in pursuit of growth, and the value of building niche, community-focused media ventures.

(01:58:58) - Lucas Atkins, Chief Technology Officer at Arcee AI, discusses the company's transition from customizing enterprise language models to developing their own, including the release of a 400-billion-parameter model. He highlights the shift in defining "small" language models, now considered to be under 50 billion parameters, and emphasizes the importance of task-driven reinforcement learning in enhancing model performance. Atkins also addresses the competitive landscape, noting the scarcity of U.S.-based open-source models and the need for sovereign AI solutions.

(02:12:54) - Bridgit Mendler, an American actress, singer, and entrepreneur, is the CEO and co-founder of Northwood Space, a satellite data startup. In the conversation, she discusses Northwood's recent $100 million Series B funding round and a $49.8 million contract with the Space Force, highlighting the company's rapid growth and its mission to streamline satellite communications by managing the entire ground infrastructure stack. She also emphasizes the importance of vertical integration to address challenges in supply chain, deployment, and regulatory approvals, aiming to accelerate the deployment of diverse and ambitious space missions.

(02:28:36) - Jeff Miller, Vice President of Marketing at Anduril Industries, discusses the company's expansion into merchandise, including collaborations with NASCAR and Ohio State University, and the launch of high-demand items like the flight jacket. He introduces the development of a global AI drone racing league, emphasizing autonomy and software innovation, with plans for virtual qualifiers leading to a physical competition in Columbus, Ohio. Additionally, Miller highlights Anduril's strategic growth, mentioning the upcoming Long Beach office to attract engineering talent and a focus on transparent product development to demonstrate scalability and reliability.

(02:52:56) - Peter Steinberger, an Austrian software engineer and entrepreneur, is renowned for founding PSPDFKit in 2011, which became the industry standard for PDF frameworks. After selling the company in 2021, he returned to the tech scene in 2025 to develop Clawdbot, an open-source AI assistant designed to run locally on users' devices, integrating with messaging platforms and performing tasks like sending emails and managing calendars. In a recent conversation, Steinberger discussed his journey from retirement back into software development, the creation and rapid adoption of Clawdbot, and his commitment to open-source projects that prioritize user privacy and autonomy.

(03:30:40) - Aaron Frank, a Partner at Lightspeed Venture Partners, co-founded Final, Inc., a credit card company acquired by Goldman Sachs, contributing to the development of the Apple Card. In the conversation, he discusses the challenges and opportunities in agentic commerce, emphasizing the need for efficient payment rails to support AI-driven transactions, and explores the role of stablecoins in facilitating global financial transactions.

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