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  • Windsurf's Wild Weekend, SpaceX Invests $2B into xAI, Zuck's AI Data Supercluster | Jeff Huber, Scott Wu & Jeff Wang, Carl Pei, Garrett McCurrach
    (00:36) - Windsurf's Wild Weekend (04:50) - Cognition to Acquire Windsurf (13:06) - Timeline Reactions to Windsurf Deal Collapse (26:43) - Windsurf Timeline of Events Breakdown (57:40) - Zuck's New AI Data Supercluster (01:10:53) - Space X Invests $2B into xAI (01:19:39) - Casey Neistat Joins ModRetro (01:21:10) - Timeline (01:30:01) - Jeff Huber, a seasoned technology executive and entrepreneur, has held pivotal roles such as Senior Vice President at Google, where he led the development of Google Ads, Apps, and Maps, and founding CEO of GRAIL, a company focused on early cancer detection. In the conversation, Huber discusses the transformative potential of artificial intelligence, emphasizing its capacity to enhance human capabilities and the importance of embracing change to stay ahead in a rapidly evolving technological landscape. (01:59:16) - Scott Wu, born in 1997, is the founder and CEO of Cognition AI, renowned for developing Devin, the world's first autonomous AI software engineer. In the conversation, he discusses the recent acquisition of Windsurf by Cognition, highlighting the complementary strengths of both teams and products, and expressing enthusiasm for the collaborative opportunities ahead. Jeff Wang is the interim CEO of Windsurf, an AI-powered code development startup. Previously serving as Head of Business, he stepped into the CEO role in July 2025 after Google hired Windsurf’s founders and R&D leads . Under his leadership, Windsurf continues operating independently, with Cognition acquiring its remaining product, tech, and team to integrate into its AI platform Devin. (02:12:07) - Carl Pei, a Chinese-born Swedish entrepreneur, co-founded OnePlus in 2013 and later founded Nothing in 2020. In the conversation, he discusses the stagnation in smartphone hardware innovation and envisions a future where AI-driven operating systems replace traditional apps, creating a more personalized and proactive user experience. Pei also critiques major tech companies for becoming overly corporate and losing their creative edge, emphasizing the need for genuine innovation in the industry. (02:41:43) - Garrett McCurrach, CEO of Pipedream Labs, is pioneering underground logistics to revolutionize last-mile delivery. He discusses the company's development of a subterranean network where autonomous robots transport goods through underground pipes to modular kiosks, enabling rapid and cost-effective deliveries. McCurrach also highlights the acquisition of a rapid fulfillment center in Austin to support this network, aiming to optimize delivery methods by integrating drones and autonomous vehicles for efficient, scalable logistics solutions. TBPN.com is made possible by: Ramp - https://ramp.comFigma - https://figma.comVanta - https://vanta.comLinear - https://linear.appEight Sleep - https://eightsleep.com/tbpnWander - https://wander.com/tbpnPublic - https://public.comAdQuick - https://adquick.comBezel - https://getbezel.com Numeral - https://www.numeralhq.comPolymarket - https://polymarket.comAttio - https://attio.com/tbpnFin - https://fin.ai/tbpnGraphite - https://graphite.devFollow TBPN: https://TBPN.comhttps://x.com/tbpnhttps://open.spotify.com/show/2L6WMqY3GUPCGBD0dX6p00?si=674252d53acf4231https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/technology-brothers/id1772360235https://www.youtube.com/@TBPNLive
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  • Weekly Recap: Grok 4 Launch, Texas Floods, Web Browser War, Top Signals, Meta Smart Glasses
    (00:00) - Intro (00:03) - Texas Floods Controversy (03:39) - Augustus Doricko (Rainmaker) (31:04) - Top Signals (01:05:09) - Grok Goes Out of Control (01:14:49) - Grok 4 Launch Breakdown (01:48:06) - Ben Thomson (Stratechery) (02:27:59) - Meta Doubles Down on Smart Glasses (02:35:21) - OpenAI to release Web Browser TBPN.com is made possible by: Ramp - https://ramp.comFigma - https://figma.comVanta - https://vanta.comLinear - https://linear.appEight Sleep - https://eightsleep.com/tbpnWander - https://wander.com/tbpnPublic - https://public.comAdQuick - https://adquick.comBezel - https://getbezel.com Numeral - https://www.numeralhq.comPolymarket - https://polymarket.comAttio - https://attio.com/tbpnFin - https://fin.ai/tbpnGraphite - https://graphite.devFollow TBPN: https://TBPN.comhttps://x.com/tbpnhttps://open.spotify.com/show/2L6WMqY3GUPCGBD0dX6p00?si=674252d53acf4231https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/technology-brothers/id1772360235https://www.youtube.com/@TBPNLive
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  • Top Signals, How Shaun Maguire & Augustus Navigated Backlash, Comet Review, VW Electric Bus Flops | Farbood Nivi, Sean Frank
    (01:48) - Market Top Signals Timeline Reaction (34:26) - Timeline (37:58) - Perplexity Browser Review (45:19) - Timeline (53:33) - How Shaun Maguire & Augustus Doricko Navigated Backlash (01:08:42) - California Ranch on Sale for $50M (01:29:17) - Volkswagen Electric Bus Flops (01:38:01) - Farbood Nivi, an entrepreneur and health enthusiast, discusses his journey through various biohacking experiments, including gene therapy and peptide use, and emphasizes the importance of establishing consistent health routines over daily self-negotiation. He shares his current regimen, which includes morning light exposure, hydration, and brief, regular exercise sessions, highlighting that a balanced approach yields better health outcomes than extreme focus on single activities. Additionally, Nivi introduces "Protocols," an app designed to facilitate health routines among friends, underscoring the significance of community support in achieving health goals. (01:59:29) - Sean Frank, CEO of The Ridge Wallet, has led the company to over $100 million in annual revenue by expanding its product line beyond minimalist wallets to include men's rings, backpacks, and other accessories. In the conversation, he discusses TikTok's strategic shift from e-commerce to focusing on advertising, the challenges of live shopping in the U.S., and the impact of AI on business operations, particularly in data analysis and creative processes. (02:34:01) - Timeline TBPN.com is made possible by: Ramp - https://ramp.comFigma - https://figma.comVanta - https://vanta.comLinear - https://linear.appEight Sleep - https://eightsleep.com/tbpnWander - https://wander.com/tbpnPublic - https://public.comAdQuick - https://adquick.comBezel - https://getbezel.com Numeral - https://www.numeralhq.comPolymarket - https://polymarket.comAttio - https://attio.com/tbpnFin - https://fin.ai/tbpnGraphite - https://graphite.devFollow TBPN: https://TBPN.comhttps://x.com/tbpnhttps://open.spotify.com/show/2L6WMqY3GUPCGBD0dX6p00?si=674252d53acf4231https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/technology-brothers/id1772360235https://www.youtube.com/@TBPNLive
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  • Grok 4 Launch Breakdown, OpenAI to Release Web Browser | Chris Paik, Will Bruey, Joel Becker, Dylan Parker, Eric Olson, Ghita Houir Alami, Elliot Hershberg, Karim Atiyeh
    (02:28) - Grok 4 Launch Breakdown (36:09) - Open AI to Release Web Browser (50:31) - Apple Plans to Release New Apple Vision Pro Model (58:48) - Chris Paik, General Partner at Pace Capital and former Partner at Thrive Capital, discusses the evolution of human-computer interaction, emphasizing the potential of technologies like eye tracking and gesture recognition. He explores the rise of VTubing and YouTube's impact on digital content, highlighting how virtual avatars are reshaping the creator landscape. Paik also introduces the "atomic value swap" framework for assessing market fit and business model alignment, stressing the importance of balanced value exchanges to ensure platform success. (01:33:50) - Will Bruey, co-founder and CEO of Varda Space Industries, discusses how microgravity enables the creation of pharmaceutical formulations not possible on Earth, as gravity affects crystal growth and particle size distribution. By manufacturing drugs in space, Varda aims to produce purer and more uniform medications, potentially improving patient outcomes. Bruey also outlines the company's plans to scale up production and establish reentry sites globally to meet the growing demand for space-manufactured pharmaceuticals. (01:53:02) - Joel Becker, a researcher at Meta, discusses a study evaluating the impact of AI assistance on experienced open-source developers working on large, long-standing projects. Contrary to expectations, the study found that developers who used AI tools were actually slowed down, rather than sped up. Becker emphasizes the need for further research to understand these findings and to assess the potential for AI systems to autonomously improve their own capabilities. (02:13:07) - Dylan Parker, Co-Founder and CEO of Moment, discusses his company's recent $36 million Series B funding led by Index Ventures, the evolution of fixed income trading from manual to electronic systems, and Moment's role in providing modern fixed income infrastructure for financial institutions, including a partnership with LPL Financial. (02:22:35) - Eric Olson, co-founder and CEO of Consensus, an AI-powered search engine for academic research, discusses how Consensus leverages large language models to provide researchers with faster, evidence-based answers from peer-reviewed journals. He highlights the platform's dedicated focus on academic content, enabling more intelligent searches and citation-forward interfaces tailored for researchers. Olson also addresses the challenges of accessing paywalled content and emphasizes the importance of open access to scientific literature. (02:33:27) - Ghita Houir Alami, co-founder of ZeroEntropy, holds two master's degrees in applied mathematics from École Polytechnique and UC Berkeley. She discusses her journey from computer vision to large language models, leading to the creation of ZeroEntropy, which focuses on enhancing retrieval systems for AI by building search tools for Retrieval-Augmented Generation (RAG) and agents. Alami emphasizes the importance of precise and efficient retrieval to prevent AI hallucinations and highlights the company's recent release of a reranker model to improve search accuracy. (02:42:53) - Elliot Hershberg is a biotech scientist, writer, and investor who has contributed to cancer vaccine design, developed computational tools for spatial genomics, and worked on genome browser software. He authors the "Century of Biology" newsletter and has served as Biotech Partner at Not Boring Capital, focusing on synthetic biology investments. In the conversation, Hershberg discusses the integration of artificial intelligence in biotechnology, highlighting its transformative impact on drug discovery and the development of innovative medicines. (02:52:22) - Karim Atiyeh, co-founder and CTO of Ramp, discusses the launch of Ramp's first AI agent designed to streamline corporate expense management by automating decisions between finance teams and other departments. This agent, knowledgeable about company expense policies and transaction details, reduces the need for manual approvals and enhances efficiency. Atiyeh also highlights the agent's ability to gather contextual information from various sources, such as calendars and emails, to make informed decisions, thereby minimizing delays and improving compliance. 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  • Linda Yaccarino Steps Down as CEO of X, F1's Red Bull Fires Christian Horner | Ben Thompson, Scott Belsky, David Marcus, Nathan Lambert, Richard Socher, Naeem Talukdar
    (02:57) - Linda Yaccarino Steps Down as CEO of X (06:01) - Grok Spreads Antisemitic Rants on X (16:00) - Tariff Deadline Pushed to August (17:54) - F1's Red Bull Fires Christian Horner (26:54) - Cloudflare Locks Down AI Crawlers (30:07) - Timeline (57:51) - David Marcus, co-founder and CEO of Lightspark, has an extensive background in financial services and technology, including leadership roles at PayPal and Meta. He discusses his journey from founding companies in Europe to leading PayPal and Meta's messaging products, culminating in the creation of Lightspark to build modern payment infrastructure on Bitcoin. Marcus emphasizes the importance of an open, decentralized money network and introduces technologies like the Universal Money Address (UMA) and Spark, a new Bitcoin Layer 2 solution, to facilitate real-time, low-cost global transactions. (01:27:24) - Ben Thompson, founder of Stratechery, is a technology and media analyst known for his in-depth analysis of tech industry strategies and business models. In the conversation, he discusses his career trajectory, the evolution of his independent analysis platform, and the challenges faced by tech companies in adapting to new market dynamics. He also explores topics such as the impact of AI on the tech industry, the importance of maintaining independence in media analysis, and the strategic decisions of major tech companies. (02:07:17) - Scott Belsky is an entrepreneur, author, and investor, best known for founding Behance, an online platform for creative professionals, and serving as Adobe's Chief Strategy Officer and Executive Vice President of Design & Emerging Products. In the conversation, Belsky discusses the concept of AI safety layers, emphasizing how AI can act as a protective mechanism against scams and misinformation by detecting and alerting users to potential threats. He also explores the economic incentives behind AI development, suggesting that aligning these incentives with user safety can mitigate risks associated with AI technologies. (02:30:53) - Nathan Lambert is a machine learning researcher at the Allen Institute for AI, focusing on building and advocating for open language models. In the conversation, he discusses the competitive landscape between American and Chinese AI models, emphasizing the need for the U.S. to invest in open-source AI to maintain technological leadership. He also highlights the importance of transparency and accessibility in AI development to foster innovation and trust. (02:43:29) - Richard Socher, a prominent AI researcher and entrepreneur, is the founder and CEO of You.com, an AI-powered search engine, and managing partner at AIX Ventures. In the conversation, he discusses his journey from completing a Ph.D. at Stanford to founding MetaMind, which was acquired by Salesforce, where he served as Chief Scientist. He also explores the challenges of integrating AI into enterprise search, the current state of AI research, and the future of artificial general intelligence. (02:57:49) - Naeem Talukdar, co-founder and CEO of Moonvalley, leads a team combining AI researchers and filmmakers to develop advanced generative video models. He discusses the integration of AI into filmmaking, emphasizing the creation of tools that enhance, rather than replace, the creative process. Talukdar highlights the importance of ethical AI practices, noting that Moonvalley's models are trained exclusively on licensed data to ensure responsible use in the entertainment industry. TBPN.com is made possible by: Ramp - https://ramp.comFigma - https://figma.comVanta - https://vanta.comLinear - https://linear.appEight Sleep - https://eightsleep.com/tbpnWander - https://wander.com/tbpnPublic - https://public.comAdQuick - https://adquick.comBezel - https://getbezel.com Numeral - https://www.numeralhq.comPolymarket - https://polymarket.comAttio - https://attio.com/tbpnFin - https://fin.ai/tbpnGraphite - https://graphite.devFollow TBPN: https://TBPN.comhttps://x.com/tbpnhttps://open.spotify.com/show/2L6WMqY3GUPCGBD0dX6p00?si=674252d53acf4231https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/technology-brothers/id1772360235https://www.youtube.com/@TBPNLive
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