Push Down And Turn

• Tragic Figures

  Ian and Kevin try to discuss family - and fail - as well as Peter Jackson, ghosts, and bad boy behaviors.  Write in with your questions and stories to: [email protected]

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• Public Humiliation

  Ian and Kevin tell stories of public humiliation - from crashing the company vehicle to yelling at celebrities and peeing your pants to impress strangers. Write in with your questions and stories to: [email protected]

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• Not Everyone Is Going To Live Life To Your Standards

  Ian and Kevin dive into songs about retribution, actors playing themselves, and the process of getting sober. Write in with your questions and stories to: [email protected]

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• What To Do When Your Tour Is Cancelled

  Ian and Kevin discuss tours being cancelled, the weird spirit, and why albums are more emotionally resonant than singles. 

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• The Point Is Getting In Trouble

  Ian Shelton (Militarie Gun, Regional Justice Center) and Kevin Hart (Public Opinion, not that one) discuss the making of Militarie Gun's next record, humans making music that sounds like AI, and whether or not we'd play a show with Kanye West in 2025. Write in with your questions and stories to: [email protected]

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