The No Film School Podcast

• The Art of Coming Undone: Mary Bronstein on ‘If I Had Legs I’d Kick You’

  In this episode of the No Film School Podcast, GG Hawkins speaks with writer-director Mary Bronstein about her searing psychological comedy-drama If I Had Legs, I'd Kick You. The film, starring Rose Byrne, Conan O'Brien, Christian Slater, and A$AP Rocky, explores the emotional breakdown of a woman navigating a mysterious illness in her child, an absentee husband, and a dangerously dependent relationship with her therapist. Premiering at Sundance and earning Rose Byrne a Silver Bear at Berlinale, the film has received critical acclaim for its raw emotional honesty and darkly comedic tone. Mary shares her deeply collaborative process with actors—particularly Byrne—and how performance, not just plot or technique, is the true core of her work. In this episode, No Film School's GG Hawkins and guest Mary Bronstein discuss... Mary’s non-traditional journey into directing via acting and method training Why understanding acting is essential for directors The intense six-week collaborative prep process Mary and Rose Byrne underwent to develop the character of Linda How Mary tailors her directing style to unlock emotionally raw, performance-driven cinema The importance of maintaining artistic integrity over commercial conformity Why most screenwriting classes and formatting “rules” are, in Mary’s words, “bullshit” The difference between directing for performance versus directing for aesthetics Mary’s perspective on the resurgence of a new indie golden age Memorable Quotes: "If your performances are shit, your movie is shit to me." (12:49) "By the time we get to set, there is nothing you could do that would be wrong." (30:34) "My struggle is a creative one, not a commercial one." (42:08) "You don’t wait for permission." (46:18) Guests: Mary Bronstein Resources: If I Had Legs, I'd Kick You is now in theaters via A24 Find No Film School everywhere: On the Web: No Film School Facebook: No Film School on Facebook Twitter: No Film School on Twitter YouTube: No Film School on YouTube Instagram: No Film School on Instagram  📩 Send us an email with questions or feedback: [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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• Can Filmmakers Make Money by Adding a ‘Tip Jar’ to the Credits? ‘Dolly’ Filmmakers Find Out

  How do you make enough money to support yourself as an independent filmmaker? It's nearly impossible. So these scrappy filmmakers tried something new. Moviegoers at this year's edition of Fantastic Fest were in for a surprise when the credits of the horror world premiere Dolly rolled: several QR codes lingered on screen. If you liked the movie, you could tip the filmmakers directly, through Venmo, Cash App, Zelle, and PayPal (those links are live in case you support the idea): In addition to the tip jar, they also put themselves in the movie so they could also find a revenue stream as actors, and they've since added to their website a high-priced opportunity to be in the sequel to Dolly as one of the victims. On this episode of the No Film School Podcast, NFS Founder Ryan Koo discusses these innovations with writer-director Rod Blackhurst, producer Noah Lang, and producer Ross O'Connor. In this episode… Why the Dolly team added a “tip jar” at the end of their movie using QR codes How creating additional revenue streams as actors and content creators might be a new model for indie filmmakers The story behind casting wrestler Max the Impaler as Dolly Using 16mm film to enhance the grindhouse horror tone and the challenges of daily shipping undeveloped reels The VFX, SFX, and editing craft that made the gore and kills land effectively The DIY spirit that fueled every part of this low-budget horror’s production Putting themselves in the film for potential SAG residuals Plans to build Dolly into a franchise and the playful spirit they bring to that The lesson that proper channels aren’t always the best path—sometimes you just DM a star and see what happens Memorable Quotes: “Putting a tip jar in the credits—if not us, then who? If not now, then when?” (42:20) “We couldn’t afford to license music, so we made our own band.” (42:30) “It’s both the most pathetic thing ever and the greatest idea of all time.” (43:50) “We will be in every Dolly. That is 100% the plan.” (50:12) Guests: Rod Blackhurst Noah Lang Ross O'Connor Resources: Why The 'Blood for Dust' Filmmakers Don't Wait for Permission ⁠'Here Alone': Post-Apocalyptic DIY Flick Wins Audience Award at Tribeca ⁠7 Directing Tips From A First-Time Feature Director ⁠Why a Proof of Concept Short is Always Worth Making Find No Film School everywhere: On the Web: No Film School Facebook: No Film School on Facebook Twitter: No Film School on Twitter YouTube: No Film School on YouTube Instagram: No Film School on Instagram  📩 Send us an email with questions or feedback: [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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• Breaking Taboos with Slamdance-Winning 'Chaperone' Director

  In this episode of the No Film School Podcast, host GG Hawkins sits down with writer-director Zoe Eisenberg to discuss her provocative and powerful debut feature Chaperone, which won the Grand Jury Prize for Best Breakout Feature at Slamdance. Set in Hawaii, the film explores a taboo relationship between a woman and a teenage boy and dives deep into themes of loneliness, desire, and moral ambiguity. GG and Zoe unpack the journey from novelist to filmmaker, the unique challenges of indie production on a remote island, and how a community-driven approach made the film possible. Plus, GG shares her own experiences pitching at the Gotham Project Market, with special guest and No Film School founder Ryan Koo reflecting on his own path from Gotham to Netflix. In this episode, No Film School's GG Hawkins, Jason Hellerman, and guests discuss... The inspiration behind Chaperone and what made the film's provocative premise resonate How Zoe transitioned from novelist to filmmaker without formal film school training The role of the Hawaii film community in supporting ultra-low-budget indie filmmaking Casting the leads, chemistry reads, and how Zoe found her actors on Instagram GG’s experience at the Gotham Project Market and Ryan Koo’s career post-Gotham Why AFM can be both a useful tool and a tough experience for emerging filmmakers Navigating rejection, finding investors locally, and the importance of perseverance How Chaperone finally found distribution and is preparing for a VOD release Memorable Quotes: "I laughed a lot, but then I became very fixated… what kind of woman would have said yes to that?" "Everyone wants to get in on a train that’s already moving." "I'm not that special. If I want to watch or read it, then other women like myself will as well." "Protect the movie and protect the actors you believe in." Guests: Zoe Eisenberg Ryan Koo Resources: Chaperone on Letterboxd Zoe Eisenberg’s novel Significant Others The Gotham Project Market Find No Film School everywhere: On the Web: No Film School Facebook: No Film School on Facebook Twitter: No Film School on Twitter YouTube: No Film School on YouTube Instagram: No Film School on Instagram 📩 Send us an email with questions or feedback: [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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• AI as a Tool, Not a Shortcut: Inside the Chroma Awards

  This episode of the No Film School Podcast takes a deep dive into the intersection of AI and creativity in filmmaking. Host GG Hawkins speaks with Matty Shimura from ElevenLabs about the upcoming Chroma Awards—an international competition that aims to spotlight ethical, intentional, and innovative uses of AI in film, music videos, and games. The conversation explores how AI is being used as a tool rather than a shortcut, the ethical complexities of its application in creative work, and how filmmakers can adapt and thrive using these new technologies. This is a sponsored podcast in partnership with ElevenLabs and the Chroma Awards. In this episode, No Film School's GG Hawkins and guest Matty Shimura discuss... The mission behind the Chroma Awards and what makes it unique in the AI creative space Why AI is not the death of creativity, but a tool for expanding it The distinction between “AI natives” and traditional filmmakers How the competition promotes transparency and ethical storytelling Ways AI can democratize filmmaking for underrepresented voices Real-world examples of powerful AI-driven projects like Electric Pink The rigorous and human-driven process behind making an AI film The fears surrounding job replacement and how to respond with curiosity and skill-building Opportunities for collaboration and community within the AI creative movement Memorable Quotes: “AI can never create taste or choice or voice. But it is a tool for honing your voice.” “Just because you can technically do anything, that doesn’t mean you should.” “The people who are going to be best at using these tools are those ones who have had these decades of experience.” “I think directing is reacting.” Guests: Matty Shimura – ElevenLabs and Chroma Awards Resources: Chroma Awards ElevenLabs Find No Film School everywhere: On the Web: No Film School Facebook: No Film School on Facebook Twitter: No Film School on Twitter YouTube: No Film School on YouTube Instagram: No Film School on Instagram 📩 Send us an email with questions or fe\edback: [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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• Shane Black’s Filmmaking Philosophy

  In this episode of the No Film School Podcast, host GG Hawkins sits down with legendary screenwriter and director Shane Black, known for iconic films like Lethal Weapon, The Last Boy Scout, The Nice Guys, and Kiss Kiss Bang Bang. The two dive deep into Black’s creative process, his latest project Play Dirty (an adaptation of Donald Westlake's Parker novels), and how his filmmaking journey and sobriety have shaped his vision. From staying true to source material while adding his unique voice, to building character-driven action scenes and navigating Hollywood with integrity and purpose, Shane shares invaluable insights for filmmakers at every stage. In this episode, No Film School's GG Hawkins and guest Shane Black discuss... What drew Shane to the Parker novels and how he approached adapting them The balance between honoring Westlake’s tone and injecting Shane’s signature wit How to structure complex stories while preserving ambiguity and character depth Creating blue-collar, competent anti-heroes as a more grounded alternative to spy thrillers The role of pre-visualization, animatics, and spontaneity on set How Shane leads a creative and collaborative environment with his cast and crew The power of post-production and the art of shaping the final story in the edit Building creative stamina and the importance of structure in a writer’s day Advice for filmmakers entering a fear-based industry with confidence and authenticity The impact of sobriety and self-awareness on creativity and leadership Memorable Quotes: "Parker is a lot of things. Sentimental is not one of them." "You're comparing your insides with their outside. So they look great... So are they." "You don’t die from a feeling.” "Be so good they can't ignore you." Guests: Shane Black Find No Film School everywhere: On the Web: No Film School Facebook: No Film School on Facebook Twitter: No Film School on Twitter YouTube: No Film School on YouTube Instagram: No Film School on Instagram 📩 Send us an email with questions or feedback: [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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