Talk Python To Me

You love building web apps with Python, and HTMX got you excited about the hypermedia approach -- let the server drive the HTML, skip the JavaScript build step, keep things simple. But then you hit that last 10%: You need Alpine.js for interactivity, your state gets out of sync, and suddenly you're juggling two unrelated libraries that weren't designed to work together.



What if there was a single 11-kilobyte framework that gave you everything HTMX and Alpine do, and more, with real-time updates, multiplayer collaboration out of the box, and performance so fast you're actually bottlenecked by the monitor's refresh rate? That's Datastar.



On this episode, I sit down with its creator Delaney Gillilan, core maintainer Ben Croker, and Datastar convert Chris May to explore how this backend-driven, server-sent-events-first framework is changing the way full-stack developers think about the modern web.

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Guests

Delaney Gillilan: linkedin.com

Ben Croker: x.com

Chris May: everydaysuperpowers.dev

Datastar: data-star.dev

HTMX: htmx.org

AlpineJS: alpinejs.dev

Core Attribute Tour: data-star.dev

data-star.dev/examples: data-star.dev

github.com/starfederation/datastar-python: github.com

VSCode: marketplace.visualstudio.com

OpenVSX: open-vsx.org

PyCharm/Intellij plugin: plugins.jetbrains.com

data-star.dev/datastar_pro: data-star.dev

gg: discord.gg

HTML-ivating your Django web app's experience with HTMX, AlpineJS, and streaming HTML - Chris May: www.youtube.com

Senior Engineer tries Vibe Coding: www.youtube.com

1 Billion Checkboxes: checkboxes.andersmurphy.com

Game of life example: example.andersmurphy.com

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Episode #537 deep-dive: talkpython.fm/537

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You've built your FastAPI app, it's running great locally, and now you want to share it with the world. But then reality hits -- containers, load balancers, HTTPS certificates, cloud consoles with 200 options. What if deploying was just one command? That's exactly what Sebastian Ramirez and the FastAPI Cloud team are building. On this episode, I sit down with Sebastian, Patrick Arminio, Savannah Ostrowski, and Jonathan Ehwald to go inside FastAPI Cloud, explore what it means to build a "Pythonic" cloud, and dig into how this commercial venture is actually making FastAPI the open-source project stronger than ever.

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Guests

Sebastián Ramírez: github.com

Savannah Ostrowski: github.com

Patrick Arminio: github.com

Jonathan Ehwald: github.com

FastAPI labs: fastapilabs.com

quickstart: fastapicloud.com

an episode on diskcache: talkpython.fm

Fastar: github.com

FastAPI: The Documentary: www.youtube.com

Tailwind CSS Situation: adams-morning-walk.transistor.fm

FastAPI Job Meme: fastapi.meme

Migrate an Existing Project: fastapicloud.com

Join the waitlist: fastapicloud.com

Talk Python CLI

Talk Python CLI Announcement: talkpython.fm

Talk Python CLI GitHub: github.com

Command Book

Download Command Book: commandbookapp.com

Announcement post: mkennedy.codes

Watch this episode on YouTube: youtube.com

Episode #536 deep-dive: talkpython.fm/536

Episode transcripts: talkpython.fm

Theme Song: Developer Rap

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Building on the web is like working with the perfect clay. It’s malleable and can become almost anything. But too often, frameworks try to hide the web’s best parts away from us. Today, we’re looking at PyView, a project that brings the real-time power of Phoenix LiveView directly into the Python world. I'm joined by Larry Ogrodnek to dive into PyView.

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Guest

Larry Ogrodnek: hachyderm.io

pyview.rocks: pyview.rocks

Phoenix LiveView: github.com

this section: pyview.rocks

Core Concepts: pyview.rocks

Socket and Context: pyview.rocks

Event Handling: pyview.rocks

LiveComponents: pyview.rocks

Routing: pyview.rocks

Templating: pyview.rocks

HTML Templates: pyview.rocks

T-String Templates: pyview.rocks

File Uploads: pyview.rocks

Streams: pyview.rocks

Sessions & Authentication: pyview.rocks

Single-File Apps: pyview.rocks

starlette: starlette.dev

wsproto: github.com

apscheduler: github.com

t-dom project: github.com

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Episode #535 deep-dive: talkpython.fm/535

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Your cloud SSD is sitting there, bored, and it would like a job. Today we’re putting it to work with DiskCache, a simple, practical cache built on SQLite that can speed things up without spinning up Redis or extra services. Once you start to see what it can do, a universe of possibilities opens up. We're joined by Vincent Warmerdam to dive into DiskCache.

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Links from the show

diskcache docs: grantjenks.com

LLM Building Blocks for Python course: training.talkpython.fm

JSONDisk: grantjenks.com

Git Code Archaeology Charts: koaning.github.io

Talk Python Cache Admin UI: blobs.talkpython.fm

Litestream SQLite streaming: litestream.io

Plash hosting: pla.sh

Watch this episode on YouTube: youtube.com

Episode #534 deep-dive: talkpython.fm/534

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Theme Song: Developer Rap

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Today on Talk Python, the creators behind FastAPI, Flask, Django, Quart, and Litestar get practical about running apps based on their framework in production. Deployment patterns, async gotchas, servers, scaling, and the stuff you only learn at 2 a.m. when the pager goes off. For Django, we have Carlton Gibson and Jeff Triplet. For Flask, we have David Lord and Phil Jones, and on team Litestar we have Janek Nouvertné and Cody Fincher, and finally Sebastián Ramírez from FastAPI is here. Let’s jump in.

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Guests

David Lord

Janek Nouvertné

Cody Fincher

Philip Jones

Jeff Triplett

Carlton Gibson

Carlton Gibson - Django: github.com

Sebastian Ramirez - FastAPI: github.com

David Lord - Flask: davidism.com

Phil Jones - Flask and Quartz(async): pgjones.dev

Yanik Nouvertne - LiteStar: github.com

Cody Fincher - LiteStar: github.com

Jeff Triplett - Django: jefftriplett.com

Django: www.djangoproject.com

Flask: flask.palletsprojects.com

Quart: quart.palletsprojects.com

Litestar: litestar.dev

FastAPI: fastapi.tiangolo.com

Coolify: coolify.io

ASGI: asgi.readthedocs.io

WSGI (PEP 3333): peps.python.org

Granian: github.com

Hypercorn: github.com

uvicorn: uvicorn.dev

Gunicorn: gunicorn.org

Hypercorn: hypercorn.readthedocs.io

Daphne: github.com

Nginx: nginx.org

Docker: www.docker.com

Kubernetes: kubernetes.io

PostgreSQL: www.postgresql.org

SQLite: www.sqlite.org

Celery: docs.celeryq.dev

SQLAlchemy: www.sqlalchemy.org

Django REST framework: www.django-rest-framework.org

Jinja: jinja.palletsprojects.com

Click: click.palletsprojects.com

HTMX: htmx.org

Server-Sent Events (SSE): developer.mozilla.org

WebSockets (RFC 6455): www.rfc-editor.org

HTTP/2 (RFC 9113): www.rfc-editor.org

HTTP/3 (RFC 9114): www.rfc-editor.org

uv: docs.astral.sh

Amazon Web Services (AWS): aws.amazon.com

Microsoft Azure: azure.microsoft.com

Google Cloud Run: cloud.google.com

Amazon ECS: aws.amazon.com

AlloyDB for PostgreSQL: cloud.google.com

Fly.io: fly.io

Render: render.com

Cloudflare: www.cloudflare.com

Fastly: www.fastly.com

Watch this episode on YouTube: youtube.com

Episode #533 deep-dive: talkpython.fm/533

Episode transcripts: talkpython.fm

Theme Song: Developer Rap

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