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    Featured: Ashleigh's Favourite Episode - Misstep 9: 'Suffering is to be avoided' (The Plausibility Problem #9)

    26.03.2026 | 35 Min.
    Ashleigh tells us about her favourite episode from our back catalogue. In the last of our series going through the missteps identified in The Plausibility Problem by Ed Shaw, we discussed whether suffering can and should be avoided. We shared our own painful experiences and examined why some argue that the suffering of celibate same-sex attracted Christians is a reason to abandon traditional biblical teaching on sexual ethics.
    We went on to show that suffering is a normal part of following Jesus, whether you're gay or straight, single or married. We looked at some of the reasons why God allows us to suffer and the joys and benefits that we receive precisely because we suffer.
    We also looked at practical things that help us when we're struggling and ways that we can use our pain to love and serve others.
    Resources mentioned and related
    The Plausibility Problem Ed Shaw
    The Plausibility Problem: A Review Steve Ward
    Support to Grieve Anne Witton
    You Only Live Once. Really? Adam Curtis
    Kitchen Floors and Gethsemane Andy Robinson
    What's Good About Struggling With Same-sex Attraction? Anne Witton
    Childlessness Anne Witton
    Anne and Abby on Their Community House Anne Witton
    Sharing Life Together Anne Witton
    Confronting Christianity Rebecca McLaughlin
    Dark Clouds, Deep Mercy Mark Vroegop
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    What About Christians Who Affirm Same-Sex Marriage? (Engaging Objections #7)

    12.03.2026 | 29 Min.
    It can be so painful when we disagree with those we love about this. What do we do when a friend changes their mind on faith and sexuality, or when our church changes its position on same-sex marriage? Does 1 Corinthians 5 contain any wisdom that we can apply here? Ashleigh, Ed and Andrew talk it through.
    Resources mentioned and related
    Healthy Spirituality | Holiness and Church Discipline | James Lawrence | 1 Corinthians 5 
    The Art of Disagreeing: How to Keep Calm and Stay Friends in Hard Conversations by Gavin Ortlund 
    Does the Bible Really Condemn Loving Same-Sex Relationships? (Engaging Objections #2), Living Out Podcast 
    Why Can't Christians Agree to Disagree?, Sam Allberry 
    How Important Is All This? (Explore Questions #6), Living Out Podcast 
    How Can We Have Good Discussions With Christians Who Disagree With Us on Sexuality?, Andrew Goddard
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    Shouldn't We Expect Sexuality to Change? (Engaging Objections #6)

    26.02.2026 | 33 Min.
    Can sexuality change? Should we seek to change it? Andrew, Ashleigh and Adam talk it through. Adam also shares his journey towards openness to dating a woman, despite his enduring experience of same-sex attraction.
    Resources mentioned and related
    Research relating to sexual fluidity: 
    What Does Heterosexuality Mean? Same-Sex Attraction, Behaviors, and Discomfort Among Self-identified Heterosexual Young Adults from Spain, Archives of Sexual Behaviour 
    Lisa Diamond on sexual fluidity of men and women, Cornell University 
    Individual fluidity of sexual identity in Stockholm County, 2010 to 2021, European Journal of Public Health 
    Sexual Orientation Identity Mobility in the United Kingdom: A Research Note, Duke University Press 
    Population Trends and Individual Fluidity of Sexual Identity Among Stockholm County Residents, JAMA Network 
    Who Counts as Sexually Fluid? Comparing Four Different Types of Sexual Fluidity in Women, Archives of Sexual Behaviour 
    Sexual Identity Fluidity Among Sexual Minorities: Gender Differences in Determinants of Fluidity and Health-Related Outcomes, Journal of Homosexuality 
    Stories of mixed-orientation marriage:
    Sean’s story
    Katherine: The Power and Beauty of Stories (Different Stories #3), Living Out Podcast
    Paul: Responding to Our Desires (Different Stories #5), Living Out Podcast 
    Nat and Matt: Mixed-Orientation Marriage (Different Stories #9), Living Out Podcast
    Other resources:
    Resources on Conversion Therapy
    Is Same-sex Attraction Inherently Sinful? (Questions No One Wants To Answer #4), Living Out Podcast
    Is Exorcism Ever An Appropriate Response to Same-Sex Attraction?, Andy Robinson
    Born Again This Way by Rachel Gilson
    Gay Girl, Good God by Jackie Hill Perry
    An Impossible Marriage by Laurie & Matt Krieg
    And if this series is raising more questions than it answers, ask us those questions here!
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    Isn't Love Good? (Engaging Objections #5)

    12.02.2026 | 31 Min.
    Ashleigh, Adam and Andy explore what real love is, and consider how we can align ourselves to Scripture’s truth in a world that preaches something different. 
    We also think about the question, 'My friend is so much happier now that they’re in a same-sex relationship – isn't that a good thing?'
    Resources mentioned and related 
    Does the Bible Affirm Same-Sex Relationships?: Examining 10 Claims about Scripture and Sexuality by Rebecca McLaughlin – in particular Chapter 10, 'A God of Love Can’t Be Against Relationships of Love'
    Friendship, Living Out Podcast series
    What Is It Teaching You?, Ashleigh Hull 
    A Better Love edited by Ed Shaw 
    Misstep 5 - 'Sex is where true intimacy is found' (The Plausibility Problem #5), Living Out Podcast 
    And if this series is raising more questions than it answers, ask us those questions here!
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    Isn't This About Justice? (Engaging Objections #4)

    29.01.2026 | 33 Min.
    Is the Bible’s teaching unjust or unfair to same-sex attracted Christians like us? Andrew, Ed and Andy talk through the intellectual and the emotional sides of this, considering how this objection has looked for us personally as well as how we might respond to it.
    Resources mentioned and related
    Dominion: The Making of the Western Mind by Tom Holland 
    The Air We Breathe: How We All Came to Believe in Freedom, Kindness, Progress, and Equality by Glen Scrivener 
    Purposeful Sexuality by Ed Shaw 
    Explore Questions: Isn’t God Being Unfair?
    Isn’t God Being Unfair? (Explore Questions #4), Living Out Podcast 
    Is Same-Sex Marriage An Issue of Equality?, Andrew Bunt 
    And if this series is raising more questions than it answers, ask us those questions here!

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Many Christians love their LGBT+ friends and want to engage well with issues of sexuality and identity, but aren’t sure how to do it. Join the Living Out team and guests as they tackle some of the most frequently asked questions and seek to navigate the choppy cultural waters with compassion and clarity. If you’re interested in a Christian perspective on sexuality, singleness, gender and identity and want to hear real stories from same-sex attracted Christians, this is the podcast for you. Hosted and produced by the Living Out team.
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