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How do users in China get access to Claude and ChatGPT through the gray market? What’s really driving China’s apparent “AI optimism”? How is China trying to deal with deepfakes and AI-generated content?

In this episode, I speak with Zilan Qian, a researcher at the Oxford China Policy Lab about the hidden side of China’s AI boom, including:
How Chinese users use “transfer stations” to access American AI models like Claude and ChatGPT
Why Chinese users still want to use Claude and ChatGPT even though there are strong Chinese mode
Why China’s apparent AI optimism is really driven by anxiety about falling behind
China’s push to label AI-generated content—and the problems with watermarks, detection, and false positives

Links:
Zilan’s Oxford page
Zilan on Substack and Twitter / X
How to Buy Cheap Claude Tokens in China
China’s AI optimism isn’t what it seems
Labelling AI-Generated Content in China

How did China build a world-leading EV industry? China didn't just pick winners. Local governments and private entrepreneurs played a critical role alongside a broader national push into batteries and electric vehicle technology.

In this episode, I talk with Fengming Lu, an assistant professor at Australian National University, about China's decades-long effort to build a world-class auto industry, its pivot to EVs, and what lessons other countries might learn.

We discuss:
• How Chinese local governments act like VC investors
• What China learned from foreign automakers like GM, Volkswagen
• The rise of upstarts like Geely, Chery, and BYD
• What caused a wave of Chinese EV startups like NIO, Xpeng, Li Auto
• The "Hefei model"

Links:
• The Rise of China’s Electric Vehicle Industry: Strategic Alliances Between Local Governments and Private Capital
• Fengming's personal website
• Fengming on Twitter / X

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Why is China’s biotech industry advancing so quickly? I talk with Abigail Coplin of Vassar College to unpack China’s biotech strategy, BGI, genomics, AI-driven drug discovery, gene therapies, biotech regulation, and what the U.S.-China biotech race means for innovation, national security, and the future of medicine.

Why has China emerged so quickly as a global biotech powerhouse?
What gives Chinese biotech companies an edge over their Western competitors?
How did BGI become one of the world’s most influential genomics companies?
Why are China’s gene and cell therapies advancing so rapidly?
What should U.S. policymakers know about China's biotech industry?

Links:
Abigail’s academic profile
Abigail’s policy paper for the Penn Project on the Future of U.S.-China Relations: “Getting Biotechnology Right: Managing Risk and Reward Between the U.S. and China in the Life Sciences”
Yu Zhou and Abigail Coplin. 2022. “Innovation in a Science-Based Sector: The Institutional Evolution behind China’s Emerging Biopharmaceutical Innovation Boom.” The China Review.

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What happened with Anthropic's Mythos and Fable models? Why did Anthropic's approach to AI safety trigger such strong backlash? What does this mean for the future of AI regulation? What role does open-source AI play in this new era of AI control? How will this impact Chinese AI labs and open-source AI models?

In this episode, I talk with Nathan Lambert, a leading expert on open-source AI. He previously led post-training at Ai2, founded The ATOM Project, and writes the popular Interconnects AI newsletter.

Topics covered:
- Anthropic, Mythos, Fable, and the Claude controversy
- Are Anthropic’s AI safety claims sincere?
- Silent degradation, trust, and researcher backlash
- Open science, open-source AI, and safety
- How will Anthropic's new safety features impact Chinese AI labs?
- The “AGI era” of AI governance
- Is open-source AI safer or riskier?
- Why US developers use Chinese open-source models
- What Nathan learned from visiting China’s AI labs
- Are Chinese AI labs AGI-pilled?Follow Nathan Lambert:
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The ATOM Project
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In this episode of the High Capacity podcast, I talk with Matt Sheehan, Senior Fellow at the Carnegie Endowment, about the next phase of the US-China AI race: AI safety, open-source models, AI agents, job displacement, and what the US and China might discuss with each other.

As the U.S. and China prepare for formal talks on AI, both sides are wrestling with a fast-changing technology landscape. The U.S. is increasingly worried about frontier model risks, cyber threats, non-state actors, and pre-release testing. China, meanwhile, is becoming more concerned about AI’s impact on jobs, social stability, political control, and the rise of autonomous AI agents.

We discuss what China really fears about AI, why Beijing’s AI governance strategy is shifting from control to deployment to broader regulation, how open-source AI might complicate safety talks, and what realistic US-China talks on AI might look like.

Topics covered:
U.S.-China AI talks, AI safety, Chinese AI policy, AI agents, OpenClaw, open-source AI, frontier models, cyber risk, AI job displacement, China’s AI regulations, autonomous weapons, AI hotlines, and the future of AI governance.

Links:
- Matt Sheehan’s Substack
- Matt Sheehan’s Carnegie page
- “China is getting worried about AI & jobs”
- “China Is Worried About AI Companions. Here’s What It’s Doing About Them.”
- Matt Sheehan on Twitter: @mattsheehan88

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