Future Histories

Anna-Verena Nosthoff zu Kybernetik und Kritik, digitaler Regierungskunst und der Rolle der Plattformen.


Future Histories LIVE

Das Gespräch mit Anna-Verena Nosthoff ist Teil des Formats ‚Future Histories LIVE‘. In unregelmäßigen Abständen werden hierbei einzelne Episoden live – soll heißen vor Publikum – aufgezeichnet. Diese Folge Future Histories ist am 26. Januar 2026 in Zusammenarbeit des Future Histories Lab mit dem Critical Data Lab entstanden und wurde im Medientheater an der Humboldt-Universität zu Berlin aufgenommen. 


Shownotes


Anna-Verena Nosthoff an der Carl von Ossietzky Universität Oldenburg (inkl. Publikationsliste):

https://uol.de/philosophie/mitarbeiterinnen/prof-dr-anna-verena-nosthoff


das Critical Data Lab: 

https://www.criticaldatalab.org/anna-verena-nosthoff


Nosthoff, A-V. (2026). Kybernetik und Kritik: Eine Theorie digitaler Regierungkunst. Suhrkamp. 

https://www.suhrkamp.de/buch/anna-verena-nosthoff-kybernetik-und-kritik-t-9783518300794


Nosthoff, Anna-Verena und Felix Maschewski. 2019. Die Gesellschaft der Wearables. Berlin: Nicolai Publishung:

https://nicolai-publishing.com/products/die-gesellschaft-der-wearables


zu Shintaro Myazaki:

https://medienwissenschaft-berlin.org/prof-dr-shintaro-miyazaki/


Foucault, M. (1977-1979 [2006]). Geschichte der Gouvernementalität - Band I und II. Suhrkamp.

https://www.suhrkamp.de/buch/michel-foucault-geschichte-der-gouvernementalitaet-t-9783518068441


zu Erich Hörl: 

https://www.leuphana.de/institute/icam/personen/erich-hoerl.html


zu Claus Pias: 

https://www.diaphanes.net/titel/zeit-der-kybernetik-eine-einstimmung-385


zu Benjamin Seibel: 

https://citylab-berlin.org/de/benjamin-seibel/


Seibel, B. (2016). Cybernetic Government: Informationstechnologie und Regierungsrationalität von 1943-1970. Springer-Verlag.

https://link.springer.com/book/10.1007/978-3-658-12490-8


zu Norbert Wiener:

https://monoskop.org/Norbert_Wiener


Wiener, N. (1948 [1985]). Cybernetics or control and communication in the animal and the machine. The M.I.T. Press.

https://ia801003.us.archive.org/9/items/cybernetics-or-communication-and-control-in-the-animal-and-the-machine-norbert-wiene-ocr/Cybernetics%20or%20Communication%20and%20Control%20in%20the%20Animal%20and%20the%20Machine%20-%20Norbert%20Wiene_OCR.pdf


Zuboff, S. (2018). Das Zeitalter des Überwachungskapitalismus. campus. 

https://www.campus.de/buecher-campus-verlag/wirtschaft-gesellschaft/wirtschaft/das_zeitalter_des_ueberwachungskapitalismus-15097.html?srsltid=AfmBOoqyy_ijK9Oex1CtRyQZwmE3BdQ30H2b_yc3-PlNDSxqwbXecaDb


Lyotard, J-F. (1974 [1984]). Libidinöse Ökonomie. Diaphenes.  

https://www.diaphanes.de/titel/libidinoese-oekonomie-109


zu Claude Shannon: 

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claude_Shannon


Shannon, C. E. & Weaver, W. (1964). The mathematical theory of communication. University of Illinois Press. 

https://monoskop.org/images/b/be/Shannon_Claude_E_Weaver_Warren_The_Mathematical_Theory_of_Communication_1963.pdf


Deutsch, K. W. (1969). Politische Kybernetik: Modelle und Perspektiven. Rombach Verlag.

https://d-nb.info/456333991/04


zum Homeostat von William Ross Ashby:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homeostat


zum Zitat von Steve Bannon ‘flood the zone with shit’:
https://www.deutschlandfunk.de/flood-the-zone-warum-trumps-flut-an-dekreten-und-provokationen-methode-hat-100.html


zu Palantir:

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palantir_Technologies


zu Jürgen Habermas:

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%C3%BCrgen_Habermas 


zu Mastodon:

https://mastodon.world/explore


zu Eric Schmidt:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Schmidt


Robins, K., & Webster, F. (1988). Cybernetic capitalism: Information, technology, everyday life. In V. Mosco & J. Wasko (eds.). The political economy of information. University of Wisconsin Press.

https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Kevin-Robins-2/publication/282816878_cybernetic_capitalism_Information_technology_everyday_life/links/561d36c708aecade1acb365e/cybernetic-capitalism-Information-technology-everyday-life.pdf


Baudrillard, J. (1983). Der symbolische Tausch und der Tod. Matthes & Seitz Berlin.

https://www.matthes-seitz-berlin.de/buch/der-symbolische-tausch-und-der-tod.html


zu Gilles Deleuze: 

https://brill.com/display/title/39900?language=de&srsltid=AfmBOoonpAe9aAERETg25wTxqOH2oWqf-8nHgpMSxX_iLoArUS_V3l8u


zu Jaques Derrida: 

https://monoskop.org/Jacques_Derrida


zu Stafford Beer:

https://monoskop.org/Stafford_Beer


zum erwähnten Projekt ‘Cybersyn’ in Chile:

https://thereader.mitpress.mit.edu/project-cybersyn-chiles-radical-experiment-in-cybernetic-socialism/ 


zum erwähnten ‘Laboria Cuboniks’-Kollektiv: 

https://monoskop.org/Laboria_Cuboniks


Gebru, T., & Torres, Émile P. (2024). The TESCREAL bundle: Eugenics and the promise of utopia through artificial general intelligence. First Monday, 29(4). 

https://firstmonday.org/ojs/index.php/fm/article/view/13636


zu Stewart Brand:

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stewart_Brand


zu Slava Gerovitch:

https://web.mit.edu/slava/homepage/gerovitch-cv.html


Klaus, G. (1973). Kybernetik – eine neue Universalwissenschaft der Gesellschaft? Akademie-Verlag Berlin.
http://www.max-stirner-archiv-leipzig.de/dokumente/KlausKybernetik.pdf 


zum Gesetz über digitale Dienste (DSA):

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gesetz_%C3%BCber_digitale_Dienste 


zu Salome Viljoen:

https://www.salomeviljoen.com/ 


Virilio, P. (2009). Der integrale Unfall. transcript. 

https://www.degruyterbrill.com/document/doi/10.1515/9783839407219-001/pdf?licenseType=restricted&srsltid=AfmBOopKQ_tu9OPZ4VAcVzfGybsk3gwqub83XcQ-QYyJxxNWAmnlWU-c 


Pentland, A. (2014). Social physics: how good ideas spread-the lessons from a new science. Penguin.

https://books.google.at/books/about/Social_Physics.html?id=KAL5AgAAQBAJ&redir_esc=y 


Pentland, A. (2014a). Social physics: How social networks can make us smarter. Penguin.

https://archive.org/details/socialphysicshow0000pent


zu Felix Maschewski:

https://www.criticaldatalab.org/felix-maschewski


Thematisch angrenzende Folgen


S03E40 | Jan Overwijk on Cybernetic Capitalism and Critical Systems Theory 

https://futurehistories-international.com/episodes/s03/e40-jan-overwijk-on-cybernetic-capitalism-and-critical-systems-theory/


S03E28 | Silke van Dyk zu alternativer Gouvernementalität

https://www.futurehistories.today/episoden-blog/s03/e28-silke-van-dyk-zu-alternativer-gouvernementalitaet/


S02E31 | Thomas Swann on Anarchist Cybernetics 

https://www.futurehistories.today/episoden-blog/s02/e31-thomas-swann-on-anarchist-cybernetics/


S01E22 | Anna-Verena Nosthoff und Felix Maschewski zu digitaler Verführung, sozialer Kontrolle und der Gesellschaft der Wearables

https://www.futurehistories.today/episoden-blog/s01/e22-anna-verena-nosthoff-und-felix-maschewski-zu-digitaler-verfuehrung-sozialer-kontrolle-und-der-gesellschaft-der-wearables/


S01E18 | Simon Schaupp zu Kybernetik und radikaler Demokratie 

https://www.futurehistories.today/episoden-blog/s01/e18-simon-schaupp-zu-kybernetik-und-radikaler-demokratie/


S01E01 | Benjamin Seibel zu Kybernetik 

https://www.futurehistories.today/episoden-blog/s01/e01-benjamin-seibel-zu-kybernetik/


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Episode Keywords 

#Anna-Verena Nosthoff, #JanGroos, #FutureHistories, #Podcast, #Zukunft, #Kybernetik, #Gouvernementalität, #PolitischeKybernetik, #CyberneticGovernment, #CriticalDataLab, #Digitalisierung, #Informationstechnologie, #Plattformen, #SocialMedia, #Kapitalismus, #Imaginaries, #AlternativeRegierungskunst, #Regierbarkeit

Yanis Varoufakis and Raphael Arar discuss the Monetary Commons.


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Shownotes


Yanis’ website:

https://www.yanisvaroufakis.eu/


Raphael’s website:

https://rarar.com/


Iza Romanowska at Aarhus University:

https://pure.au.dk/portal/en/persons/iza-romanowska/


Hirad’s website:

https://hiradsab.com/


the Monetary Commons website:

https://monetarycommons.com/


Varoufakis, Y. (2024). Technofeudalism. What Killed Capitalism. Vintage Books.

https://www.penguin.co.uk/books/451795/technofeudalism-by-varoufakis-yanis/9781529926095


Varoufakis, Y. (2021). Another Now. Melville House.

https://www.mhpbooks.com/books/another-now/


on the 2025 German ‘Sondervermögen’/‘The Special Fund for Infrastructure and Climate Neutrality’:

https://www.bundesfinanzministerium.de/Web/EN/Issues/Public-Finances/SVIK/special-fund-infrastructure-and-climate-neutrality.html


on Wolfgang Schäuble:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolfgang_Sch%C3%A4uble


Graeber, D. (2011). Debt. The first 5,000 Years. Melville House.

https://files.libcom.org/files/__Debt__The_First_5_000_Years.pdf


on IOU’s:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IOU


on the Money Market Multiplier:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Money_multiplier


on Ludwig Wittgenstein’s argument of the impossibility of a private language:

https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/private-language/


on the Digital Renminbi in China:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_renminbi


on Universal Basic Income (UBI):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_basic_income


Berry, C. (2023). The Case for a Universal Basic Dividend. UCL Institute for Innovation and Public Purpose, Policy Brief series 25.

https://www.ucl.ac.uk/bartlett/sites/bartlett/files/berry_c_2023._the_case_for_a_universal_basic_dividend.pdf


on fiat money:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiat_money


Varoufakis, Y. (2013). Bitcoin and the Dangerous Fantasy of ‘Apolitical’ Money.

https://www.yanisvaroufakis.eu/2013/04/22/bitcoin-and-the-dangerous-fantasy-of-apolitical-money/


on the case of Nicolas Guillou, French ICC judge, being sanctioned by the US:

https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2025/11/19/nicolas-guillou-french-icc-judge-sanctioned-by-the-us-you-are-effectively-blacklisted-by-much-of-the-world-s-banking-system_6747628_4.html


on the distributed ledger technology:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distributed_ledger


Mau, S. (2023). Mute Compulsion. A Marxist Theory of the Economic Power of Capital. Verso.

https://www.versobooks.com/products/2759-mute-compulsion


McCarthy, M. A. (2025). The Master's Tools. How Finance Wrecked Democracy (And a Radical Plan to Rebuild It). Verso.

https://www.versobooks.com/products/755-the-master-s-tools


Sorg, C. (2025). Finance as a Form of Economic Planning. Competition & Change, 29(1), 17-37.

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/10245294231217578


on citizen’s assemblies:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizens%27_assembly


on the International Monetary Fund (IMF):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Monetary_Fund


on the Digital Euro:

https://www.ecb.europa.eu/euro/digital_euro/html/index.en.html


the essay that includes the quote by Peter Thiel on the incompatibility of liberalism/capitalism and democracy:

https://www.cato-unbound.org/2009/04/13/peter-thiel/education-libertarian/


on the Meidner Plan:

https://jacobin.com/2025/08/sweden-socialism-rehn-meidner-plan


on the Trump administration buying 10% of Intel shares:

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/what-economic-and-policy-experts-think-about-the-u-s-governments-stake-in-intel


on Cloud Capital (see also Yanis’ ‘Technofeudalism’ book):

https://youtu.be/3gsGvgrsyOU?si=fQwW5BEHBFDvB980


on Ursula K. Le Guin:

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ursula_K._Le_Guin


the speech including the mentioned quote by her:

https://youtu.be/Et9Nf-rsALk?si=VCGW4OoDqY0HXa2E


on the 1973 Coup in Chile:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1973_Chilean_coup_d%27%C3%A9tat


on Modern Monetary Theory (MMT):

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_Monetary_Theory


on Fernando Haddad:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fernando_Haddad


on pix:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pix_(payment_system)


on the 2008 financial crisis in Iceland:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008%E2%80%932011_Icelandic_financial_crisis



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S01E59 | Joscha Wullweber zu Zentralbankkapitalismus

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S01E34 | Aaron Sahr zu monetärer Souveränität und Modern Monetary Theory (Teil 2)

https://www.futurehistories.today/episoden-blog/s01/e34-aaron-sahr-zu-monetaerer-souveraenitaet-und-modern-monetary-theory-teil-2/


S01E33 | Aaron Sahr zu monetärer Souveränität und Modern Monetary Theory (Teil 1)

https://www.futurehistories.today/episoden-blog/s01/e33-aaron-sahr-zu-monetaerer-souveraenitaet-und-modern-monetary-theory-teil-1/ 

 

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Episode Keywords

#YanisVaroufakis, #RaphaelArar #JanGroos, #Interview, #FutureHistories, #FutureHistoriesInternational, #futurehistoriesinternational, #MonetaryCommons, #Commons, #Transition, #Capitalism, #Socialism, #Narratives, #MMT, #CentralBanks, #MoneyCreation, #Commoning, #Finance

Ankündigung

Future Histories LIVE in Berlin! Am 26.1. spreche ich mit der großartigen Anna-Verena Nosthoff über ihr neues Buch "Kybernetik und Kritik" (Suhrkamp Verlag) im Medientheater der Humboldt-Universität.

Beginn: 18:30
Ort: Georgenstraße 47, Berlin

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Miriam Lang zu Systemalternativen jenseits des Entwicklungsparadigmas.

 

Shownotes


Miriam Lang an der Universidad Andina Simón Bolívar:

https://www.uasb.edu.ec/docente/miriam-lang-id907/


Global Working Group Beyond Development:

https://beyonddevelopment.net/


Pacto EcoSocial e Intercultural del Sur:

https://pactoecosocialdelsur.com/


Lang, M., Manahan, M. A., & Bringel, B. (Hrsg.). (2025).  Grüner Kolonialismus. Zwischen Energiewende und globaler Gerechtigkeit. oekom Verlag.

https://www.oekom.de/buch/gruener-kolonialismus-9783987261671


Hoffman, O. (2025). Polykrise. Anatomie eines globalen Zusammenbruchs. Warum alle Krisen zusammenhängen - und was das für unsere Zukunft bedeutet. Königshausen & Neumann.

https://verlag.koenigshausen-neumann.de/product/9783826093883-polykrise/


zu Intersektionalität:

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intersektionalit%C3%A4t


Acosta, A. (2015). Buen vivir. Vom Recht auf ein gutes Leben. oekom Verlag.

https://www.oekom.de/buch/buen-vivir-9783865817051


zum „Sozialismus des 21. Jahrhunderts“:

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sozialismus_des_21._Jahrhunderts


Peters, S. (2019). Sozialismus des 21. Jahrhunderts in Venezuela. Aufstieg und Fall der Bolivarischen Revolution von Hugo Chávez. Schmetterling Verlag.

https://schmetterling-verlag.de/produkt/sozialismus-des-21-jahrhunderts-in-venezuela/


zur Gesamtamerikanischen Freihandelszone ALCA:

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amerikanische_Freihandelszone


zum zapatistischen Aufstand in Chiapas:

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chiapas-Konflikt


zur CONAIE (Confederación de Nacionalidades Indígenas del Ecuador):

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/CONAIE


zu BRICS:

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/BRICS


zur UNASUR (Unión de Naciones Suramericanas):

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_S%C3%BCdamerikanischer_Nationen


zu Hugo Chávez:

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugo_Ch%C3%A1vez


zu Rafael Correa:

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rafael_Correa


zu Álvaro García Linera:

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%81lvaro_Garc%C3%ADa_Linera


zu Evo Morales:

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evo_Morales


Barié, C. G. (2022). Representation of Indigenous Peoples in Times of Progressive Governments. Lessons Learned from Bolivia. Latin American and Caribbean Ethnic Studies, 17(2), 167–192.

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/17442222.2020.1839225


zum Ministerium der Kultur, Dekolonialisierung und Depatriarchalisierung in Bolivien:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ministry_of_Cultures_(Bolivia)


zu Extraktivismus:

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extraktivismus


Riofrancos, T. (2025). Extraction. The Frontiers of Green Capitalism. W.W. Norton.

https://www.theariofrancos.com/extraction


zur PSUV (Partido Socialista Unido de Venezuela):

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partido_Socialista_Unido_de_Venezuela


de Sousa Santos, B. (2018). Epistemologien des Südens. Gegen die Hegemonie des westlichen Denkens. Unrast Verlag.

https://www.isbn.de/buch/9783897712423/epistemologien-des-suedens


zu Daniel Noboa:

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Noboa


zum Schuldenaudit in Ecuador in 2007:

https://www.debtforclimate.org/post/8-2008-ecuador-buys-back-its-own-debt-after-audit


zur Bank des Südens:

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bank_des_S%C3%BCdens


zur ALBA (Bolivarianische Allianz für die Völker unseres Amerika – Handelsvertrag der Völker):

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bolivarianische_Allianz_f%C3%BCr_Amerika


zum Consejo Nacional para la Igualdad de Género (Nationaler Rat für Geschlechtergleichstellung):

https://www.igualdadgenero.gob.ec/


Amin, S. (1990). Delinking. Towards a Polycentric World. Zed Books.

https://www.bloomsbury.com/uk/delinking-9780862328030/


zum informellen Sektor der Wirtschaft:

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Informelle_Wirtschaft


zu Commoning:

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commoning


Aguilar, R. G. (2024). In Defense of Common Life. The Political Thought of Raquel Gutiérrez Aguilar. Common Notions.

https://www.commonnotions.org/in-defense-of-common-life


Kothari. A. et al. (Hrsg.). (2024). Pluriversum. Ein Lexikon des Guten Lebens für alle. AG SPAK Bücher.

https://www.agspak.de/pluriversum/


zu J.K. Gibson Graham, Community Economies und Diverse Economies:

https://www.communityeconomies.org/people/jk-gibson-graham


zu Ashish Kothari:

https://ashishkothari.in/


zu demokratischem Konföderalismus:

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demokratischer_Konf%C3%B6deralismus


Gibson-Graham, J.K. & Dombroski, K. (Hrsg.). (2020). The Handbook of Diverse Economies. Edward Elgar.

https://www.e-elgar.com/shop/gbp/the-handbook-of-diverse-economies-9781788119955.html


van Dyk, S. & Haubner, T. (2021). Community-Kapitalismus. Hamburger Edition.

https://www.hamburger-edition.de/buecher-e-books/artikel-detail/community-kapitalismus/


London Edinburgh Weekend Return Group (1979). In and Against the State. Discussion Notes for Socialists. Pluto Press.

https://www.plutobooks.com/product/in-and-against-the-state/


zu Public-Commons Partnerships:

https://www.in-abundance.org/what-is-a-public-commons-parntership


zu Aníbal Quijano:

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/An%C3%ADbal_Quijano


Krüger, T. (2024). Munizipalismus. In: Eckardt, F. (Hrsg.). Handbuch Stadtsoziologie. Springer VS.

https://link.springer.com/rwe/10.1007/978-3-658-42419-0_45-1


Gilbert, C. (2023). Commune or Nothing! Venezuela’s Communal Movement and its Socialist Project. Monthly Review Press.

https://monthlyreview.org/9781685900243/


zum gescheiterten Staatsstreich in Venezuela in 2002:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002_Venezuelan_coup_attempt


Fackler, M. (2023). Indigene Autonomie in Lateinamerika. Zwischen Selbstbestimmung und staatlicher Kontrolle. transcipt.

https://www.transcript-verlag.de/978-3-8376-5798-2/indigene-autonomie-in-lateinamerika/


zum Kooperativennetzwerk Cecosesola:

https://cecosesola.org/


zum Valley to Valley Projekt:

https://valleytovalley.org/


Bennholdt-Thomsen, V. & Mies, M. (1997). Eine Kuh für Hillary. Die Subsistenzperspektive. Verlag Frauenoffensive.

https://archive.org/details/Subsistenzperspektive/mode/2up


zu Bürgerräten in Deutschland:

https://www.buergerrat.de/buergerraete/bundesweite-buergerraete/


zur Mink'a:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minka_(communal_work)


Fressoz, J-B. (2025). More and More and More. An All Consuming History.Penguin.

https://www.penguin.co.uk/books/464145/more-and-more-and-more-by-fressoz-jean-baptiste/9781802067316




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S03E35 | Andreas Folkers zu Nachhaltigkeit, Resilienz und gesellschaftlichen Naturverhältnissen

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S03E16 | Daniela Russ zu Energie(wirtschaft) und produktivistischer Ökologie

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Kim Stanley Robinson discusses Real Utopian Futures.


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Shownotes


The reference page on Kim Stanley Robinson, his works, interviews, talks, etc. (including a discussion forum):

https://www.kimstanleyrobinson.info/


Robinson, K. S. (2020). The Ministry for the Future. Orbit Books.

https://www.orbit-books.co.uk/titles/kim-stanley-robinson/the-ministry-for-the-future/9780356508863/


Robinson, K. S. (2017). New York 2140. Orbit Books.

https://www.orbit-books.co.uk/titles/kim-stanley-robinson/new-york-2140/9780356508788/


Robinson, K. S. (1988). The Gold Coast. Macmillan.

https://us.macmillan.com/books/9780312890377/thegoldcoast/


Blumenfeld, J. (2024). Managing Decline. Cured Quail, Vol. 3.

https://curedquail.com/Managing-Decline


Blumenfeld, J. (2022). Climate Barbarism. Adapting to a wrong World. Constellations, 30, 162–178.

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/1467-8675.12596


the quoted Kohei Saito video:

https://youtube.com/shorts/WnvhD7p651M?si=SdfPftKOCJM6MS9j


the lecture in which Kim Stanley Robinson talks about “futurecide” and “preemptive capitulation”:

https://youtu.be/HpzXkpx29S4?si=PVlOE53Hj5-BZR5B

reporting on and summary of the talk:

https://www.ioes.ucla.edu/article/the-war-on-science-is-here-kim-stanley-robinson-says-its-just-the-beginning/


Löwy, M. (2005). What is Ecosocialism? Capitalism Nature Socialism, 16(2), 15–24.

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/10455750500108237


for an overview of the history and different schools of Ecomarxist/Ecosocialist theory:

https://www.historicalmaterialism.org/ecology-marxism-andreas-malm/


on Anna Kornbluh:

http://www.annakornbluh.com/


on Mass Extinction Events:

https://www.nhm.ac.uk/discover/what-is-mass-extinction-and-are-we-facing-a-sixth-one.html


Dressler, A. (2025). You have 100 ‘Energy Slaves’. The Climate Brink.

https://www.theclimatebrink.com/p/you-have-100-energy-slaves


on the 30 by 30 Biodiversity Goal:

https://www.cop28.com/en/thought-leadership/The-30x30-Biodiversity-Goal-at-COP28


the International Maritime Organization:

https://www.imo.org/


on the ‘Half-Earth Project’:

https://eowilsonfoundation.org/what-is-the-half-earth-project/


Wilson, E. O. (2016). Half-Earth. Our Planet’s Fight for Life. Norton Books.

https://wwnorton.com/books/9781631492525


Pendergrass, D. & Vettese, T. (2022). Half-Earth Socialism. A Plan to Save the Future from Extinction, Climate Change and Pandemics. Verso.

https://www.versobooks.com/products/2650-half-earth-socialism


one of the many interviews/talks in which Kim Stanley Robinson talks about science fiction as the realism of our times:

https://youtu.be/p1wNhc46xjE?si=hOdKuwRQhef-9tLs


on the Turing Test:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turing_test


on Neoliberalism attaching itself to demands of the New Left:

Boltanski, L. & Chiapello, E. (2018). The New Spirit of Capitalism. Verso.

https://www.versobooks.com/products/1980-the-new-spirit-of-capitalism


on Friedrich Hayek:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friedrich_Hayek


Williams, R. (2015). Structures of Feeling. In: D. Sharma & F. Tygstrup (Ed.), Structures of Feeling. Affectivity and the Study of Culture (pp. 20-26).

https://www.degruyterbrill.com/document/doi/10.1515/9783110365481.20/html


on Keynesianism:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keynesian_economics


Vogl, J. (2017). The Ascendancy of Finance. Polity Press.

https://www.politybooks.com/bookdetail?book_slug=the-ascendancy-of-finance--9781509509294


Graeber, D. (2011). Debt. The First 5,000 Years. Melville House.

https://files.libcom.org/files/__Debt__The_First_5_000_Years.pdf


on Thomas Piketty:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Piketty


on Gabriel Zucman:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gabriel_Zucman


on the ‘Zucman tax’: https://www.lemonde.fr/en/les-decodeurs/article/2025/09/23/zucman-tax-what-the-proposed-wealth-tax-would-mean-for-france_6745653_8.html


on Carbon Taxes:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_tax


Sorg, C. (2023). Finance as a Form of Economic Planning. Competition & Change, 29(1), 17-37.

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/10245294231217578


Sarkar, S. (2024). The Carbon Coin. An Eco-Speculative Approach to Decarbonisation in Kim Stanley Robinson’s The Ministry for the Future. Green Letters, 28(4), 297–310.

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/14688417.2025.2483998


A policy proposal on ‘Carbon Reward’ from the same researcher whose earlier policy work inspired the ‘Carbon Coin’ idea in The Ministry for the Future:

https://deltonchen.substack.com/p/new-economic-blueprint-for-resolving

see also:

https://globalcarbonreward.org/newsletters/carbon-coin/


on Quantitative Easing:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantitative_easing


on Carbon Drawdown:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_sequestration


on Nicolas Stern:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicholas_Stern,_Baron_Stern_of_Brentford


on the Democratic Socialists of America:

https://www.dsausa.org/


the Network for Greening the Financial System:

https://www.ngfs.net/en


on COP30 in Belém:

https://unfccc.int/cop30


Solnit, R. (2022). Orwell’s Roses. Penguin.

https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/607057/orwells-roses-by-rebecca-solnit/




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S3E47 | Jason W. Moore on Socialism in the Web of Life

https://www.futurehistories.today/episoden-blog/s03/e47-jason-w-moore-on-socialism-in-the-web-of-life/


S03E44 | Anna Kornbluh on Climate Counteraesthetics

https://www.futurehistories.today/episoden-blog/s03/e44-anna-kornbluh-on-climate-counteraesthetics/


S03E32 | Jacob Blumenfeld on Climate Barbarism and Managing Decline

https://www.futurehistories.today/episoden-blog/s03/e32-jacob-blumenfeld-on-climate-barbarism-and-managing-decline/


S03E30 | Matt Huber & Kohei Saito on Growth, Progress and Left Imaginaries

https://www.futurehistories.today/episoden-blog/s03/e30-matt-huber-kohei-saito-on-growth-progress-and-left-imaginaries/


S03E23 | Andreas Malm on Overshooting into Climate Breakdown

https://www.futurehistories.today/episoden-blog/s03/e23-andreas-malm-on-overshooting-into-climate-breakdown/


S02E18 | Drew Pendergrass and Troy Vettese on Half Earth Socialism

https://www.futurehistories.today/episoden-blog/s02/e18-drew-pendergrass-and-troy-vettese-on-half-earth-socialism/


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If you are interested in democratic economic planning, these resources might be of help:


Democratic planning – an information website

https://www.democratic-planning.com/


Sorg, C. & Groos, J. (eds.)(2025). Rethinking Economic Planning. Competition & Change Special Issue Volume 29 Issue 1.

https://journals.sagepub.com/toc/ccha/29/1


Groos, J. & Sorg, C. (2025). Creative Construction - Democratic Planning in the 21st Century and Beyond. Bristol University Press. [for a review copy, please contact: amber.lanfranchi[at]bristol.ac.uk]

https://bristoluniversitypress.co.uk/creative-construction


International Network for Democratic Economic Planning

https://www.indep.network/


Democratic Planning Research Platform:

https://www.planningresearch.net/

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Rabea Berfelde discusses socialisation, its history and current socialisation movements.

Future Histories LIVE.

This episode is part of the ‘Future Histories LIVE’ format. For this, individual episodes are recoded live – that is, in front of an audience – at irregular intervals. This episode was recorded on August 6th, during the 2025 Rethinking Economics Summer School Switzerland, titled “Economics as Resistance. Heterodox Strategies on Housing, Energy, and Agriculture against the New Right”.

Please support the Institute for Transformation and Economy Studies in making the Rethinking Economics Summer School happen, by donating here:

hhttps://criticaltheoryinberlin.de/people/rabea-berfelde/


the Socialization in Theory and Practice research project:

https://criticaltheoryinberlin.de/en/projects/socialization-in-theory-and-practice/


the 2025 Rethinking Economics Summer School Switzerland:

https://resuso.ch/


Berfelde, R., & Möller, P. (2025). (Re)-Imagining Housing as an Infrastructure for Social Reproduction. In J. Groos & C. Sorg (Eds.), Creative Construction. Democratic Planning in the 21st Century and Beyond. Bristol University Press.

https://bristoluniversitypress.co.uk/creative-construction


Berfelde, R. et al. (2024). Für eine Linke mit Plan. Luxemburg. Gesellschaftsanalyse und Linke Praxis. 1/2024.

https://zeitschrift-luxemburg.de/artikel/fuer-eine-linke-mit-plan/


Berfelde, R. & Heeg, S. (2024). Struggling with and through Knowledge Production: The Campaign ‘Expropriate Deutsche Wohnen & Co.’s’ Attempt at Housing Definancialisation in Berlin. Critical Housing Analysis 11 (1): 105-114.

https://www.housing-critical.com/home-page-1/struggling-with-and-through-knowledge-productio


Berfelde, R., & Blumenfeld, J. (2024). Von der Vergesellschaftung zur Planung und wieder zurück: Über alte und neue Debatten um Wirtschaftsplanung und Vergesellschaftung. PROKLA. Zeitschrift für Kritische Sozialwissenschaft, 54 (215), 177–193.

https://www.prokla.de/index.php/PROKLA/article/view/2119


Berfelde, R., & Möller, P. (2023). Radikaldemokratische Planung der Wohnraumversorgung? Das Vergesellschaftungskonzept von »Deutsche Wohnen & Co. enteignen«. PROKLA. Zeitschrift für Kritische Sozialwissenschaft, 53 (212), 561–577.

https://www.prokla.de/index.php/PROKLA/article/view/2049


on the Bavarian Soviet/Council Republic:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bavarian_Soviet_Republic


on the German revolution of 1918-19:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_revolution_of_1918%E2%80%931919


Backhaus, J., Chaloupek, G., & Frambach, H. A. (2019). The First Socialization Debate (1918) and Early Efforts Towards Socialization. Springer.

https://www.springerprofessional.de/the-first-socialization-debate-1918-and-early-efforts-towards-so/16761374


on Otto Neurath:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otto_Neurath


Chaloupek, G. (2007). Otto Neurath's Concepts of Socialization and Economic Calculation and his Socialist Critics. In: Nemeth, E., Schmitz, S.W., Uebel, T.E. (eds.) Otto Neurath's Economics in Context. Vienna Circle Institute Yearbook, vol 13. Springer.

https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-1-4020-6905-5_4


on Karl Korsch:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Korsch


on Otto Bauer:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otto_Bauer


Meyer, N. (2023). Otto Bauer on the Long Transition to Socialism. Left Notes.

https://www.left-notes.com/p/otto-bauer-long-transition-to-socialism


on Karl Kautsky:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Kautsky


Vrousalis, N. (2018). Council Democracy and the Socialisation Dilemma. In: Muldoon, J. (ed.) Council Democracy. Towards a Democratic Socialist Politics. Routledge.

https://www.taylorfrancis.com/chapters/edit/10.4324/9781351205634-5/council-democracy-socialisation-dilemma-nicholas-vrousalis


Blumenfeld, J. (2023). What was socialization? A look back.

https://sfb294-eigentum.de/en/blog/what-was-socialization-a-look-back/


Critical Theory Network et al. (2024). 11 Theses on Socialisation.

https://criticaltheoryinberlin.de/en/interventions/11-theses-on-socialisation/


Benanav, A. (2025). Beyond Capitalism – 1. New Left Review. 153 May-June 2025.

https://newleftreview.org/issues/ii153/articles/aaron-benanav-beyond-capitalism-1


Benanav, A. (2025). Beyond Capitalism – 2. New Left Review. 154 July-August 2025.

https://newleftreview.org/issues/ii154/articles/aaron-benanav-beyond-capitalism-2


Muldoon, J. (ed.) (2018). Council Democracy. Towards a Democratic Socialist Politics. Routledge.

https://www.taylorfrancis.com/books/edit/10.4324/9781351205634/council-democracy-james-muldoon


on Deutsche Wohnen & Co Enteignen (the Berlin Housing Campagin):

https://dwenteignen.de/en


Hoffrogge, R. (2024). Commons and Constitution: historical and legal roots of the German socialization movement:

https://sfb294-eigentum.de/de/blog/commons-and-constitution-historical-and-legal-roots-of-the-german-socialization-movement/


for projects on socialization in different sectors see also:

https://communia.de/en/

communia (2024). Socialising Energy. Lessons from radical housing campaigns in Germany. In: Buxton, N. (ed.) (2024). Energy, Power and Transition. Transnational Institute.

https://www.tni.org/files/2024-03/State%20of%20Power%202024-web.pdf


on the legal assessment of socialising the energy sector in Germany:

https://communia.de/energiekonzerne-enteignen-das-geht/


article 15 in the constitution of Germany:

https://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/gg/art_15.html


for the draft of the socialisation law by the Berlin Housing Campaign see here:

https://dwenteignen.de/en/material


the Ackersyndikat:

https://ackersyndikat.org/


RWE & Co Enteignen:

https://rwe-enteignen.de/


Hamburg Enteignet:

https://hamburg-enteignet.de/


the socialist calculation debate:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_calculation_debate


the first socialisation conference 2022:

https://communia.de/en/project/socialization-conference-october-2022/


the second socialisation conference 2024:

https://communia.de/en/project/lets-socialize-socialization-for-climate-justice/


on anti-fascist economics:

https://www.exploring-economics.org/en/discover/anti-fascist-economics/



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S03E32 | Jacob Blumenfeld on Climate Barbarism and Managing Decline

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If you are interested in democratic economic planning, these resources might be of help:


Democratic planning – an information website

https://www.democratic-planning.com/


Sorg, C. & Groos, J. (eds.)(2025). Rethinking Economic Planning. Competition & Change Special Issue Volume 29 Issue 1.

https://journals.sagepub.com/toc/ccha/29/1


Groos, J. & Sorg, C. (2025). Creative Construction - Democratic Planning in the 21st Century and Beyond. Bristol University Press. [for a review copy, please contact: amber.lanfranchi[at]bristol.ac.uk]

https://bristoluniversitypress.co.uk/creative-construction


International Network for Democratic Economic Planning

https://www.indep.network/


Democratic Planning Research Platform:

https://www.planningresearch.net/

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Episode Keywords

#RabeaBerfelde, #JanGroos, #Interview, #FutureHistories, #FutureHistoriesInternational, #futurehistoriesinternational, #FutureHistoriesLive #DemocraticPlanning, #DemocraticEconomicPlanning, #Capitalism #BerlinHousingCampaign, #DWE, #Economics, #Socialism, #Socialisation, #OttoNeurath, #AaronBenanav, #Transition