Crypto, Explained by the National Cryptocurrency Association

Picture someone who owns crypto. For most of us the same face shows up: a young guy, a wall of screens, a lot of jargon, and maybe a little too much confidence. That picture is doing real damage, because it tells everyone who does not see themselves in it that this was never meant for them.
In this episode, Ali Tager sits down with Kristina Sherk, a headshot photographer and Photoshop educator based outside Washington, D.C. Kristina has spent a decade helping people look and sound their best on camera and teaching other creatives to do the same. She did not arrive at crypto through a hot tip or a price chart. She arrived through a very ordinary pressure a lot of Americans will recognize, which was a business that stopped when the world did. Nobody needed a headshot in a mask. Her husband raised the idea, and she found herself with an unfamiliar amount of free time and a question she was not willing to answer casually.
What she did next is the actual story. She refused to put money into an asset class she could not explain, so she watched what she describes as every documentary known to man, and kept going until something clicked. The thing that finally landed was a problem she already understood better than most people, because she lives it: anything digital can be copied. She watermarks her photographs and people crop the watermark out. Napster and Limewire did the same thing to music and film. So how do you build something digital that cannot simply be duplicated, and why does the answer make a shared, public list of receipts the most interesting invention of her lifetime? Kristina also talks about growing up in the Philippines and Ivory Coast while her father worked as an economist for development banks, and what it did to her sense of how differently money works depending on where you happen to be standing.
The conversation ends where a lot of people actually need it to end, which is on proportion. Ali is candid that she is not all in, and walks through what sits alongside the crypto in her own financial life. Kristina talks about verification, and why a system anyone can audit changes what is possible when something goes wrong. Neither of them tells you what to do. That is the point. Read Kristina's story and find free Crypto 101 courses at nca.org, built for people who are curious but nervous about a first step. Remember, crypto was always meant for everyone, including you.

What We Discuss:
0:00 – Intro: "Bigger Than the Internet"
1:11 – Meet Kristina Sherk
3:08 – COVID & the Push to Learn
7:14 – Growing Up Around the World
13:22 – The Double Spend Problem
16:24 – The "Aha" Moment
25:46 – Crypto & Human Rights
32:36 – Banking the Unbanked
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There is a specific kind of moment that keeps people out of crypto. You are scrolling, or you are at dinner, and somebody starts talking about yield and liquidity pools and staking rewards like it is all perfectly normal conversation, and you are just sitting there thinking you do not know what any of that means. That feeling is not a knowledge problem. It is a vocabulary problem, and it has a fix.
In this episode, Ali walks through the five terms that unlock the DeFi world: DeFi itself, liquidity pools, yield, staking, and DEXs. The through-line is that none of these ideas are actually new. Lending, borrowing, trading, earning interest, we already do all of it in traditional finance. DeFi just does it without a middleman such as the bank, instead the rules live in software rather than at a company, and the trade-off is more access and flexibility with less of the safety net people are used to.
Each term comes with an analogy built to make it stick. A liquidity pool becomes a community lemonade stand where everyone brings ingredients to one big batch and everyone who contributes gets a share when a cup sells. Yield gets compared to interest, including why a platform advertising an unusually high return is a signal to slow down and ask where that return is actually coming from, and what people mean by the fancier sounding yield farming. Staking works like agreeing to leave money alone for a set period, with the detail most people miss, which is the un-staking window that can run days or even a week before you can pull your crypto back out. And the difference between a centralized exchange (CEX) and a decentralized exchange (DEX) becomes a grocery store versus a farmer's market, where one company controls everything on the shelves and the other lets you trade directly with whoever shows up.
By the end, the jargon stops sounding like a foreign language and starts sounding like familiar ideas wearing different clothes. Want to explore how this works without putting any money on the line? Try the free crypto simulator at nca.org and practice in a risk-free environment. Remember, crypto was always meant for everyone, including you.
What We Discuss:0:00 - What is DeFi?0:24 - Crypto jargon explained0:49 - 5 key DeFi terms1:10 - Decentralized finance1:47 - DeFi vs banks2:06 - Liquidity pools3:09 - Yield in DeFi3:30 - High yield = high risk3:48 - Staking crypto4:45 - DEX vs CEX
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For a lot of people, the word wealth puts up a wall. It sounds like a club you were never invited to, something for people who already have money and already know the language. But NCA's research found that when everyday crypto holders describe how the technology makes them feel about their financial lives, the top words are not rich or wealthy. They are proud and confident, with 83% reporting they feel that way.
Ali sits down with Dr. Tonya Evans to understand where that confidence comes from. Tonya is a former tenured law professor who spent nearly two decades in legal academia before pivoting fully into digital assets. She built the first blockchain, cryptocurrency, and law certificate program at a US law school, wrote Digital Money Demystified, and hosts the SiriusXM podcast Confidently Crypto. Her origin story is its own hook: an intellectual property lawyer researching orphan works in copyright who tumbled into a two-week rabbit hole over one holiday and came out convinced this technology would change the world.
The heart of the conversation is a distinction most people never learn: the difference between income and wealth. Tonya explains why wealth is less about a windfall and more about ownership and control, how capital assets are meant to work harder than the hours you trade for a paycheck, and why crypto is taxed in the US as a capital asset rather than a currency, a detail she says trips up newcomers constantly. She is candid about risk, too. She walks through the myths she wrote her book to address, from proof-of-work energy concerns to the idea that crypto is only for criminals, and offers a memorable rebuttal on which asset bad actors actually prefer.
The through-line is trust: trusting the technology, trusting the information, and, hardest of all, learning to trust yourself with your own financial decisions. Tonya makes the case that new technology can expand access, but access without understanding only deepens the gaps it was meant to close, which is why she keeps returning to literacy as the thing that actually builds and protects wealth. Read Digital Money Demystified or find free Crypto 101 courses at nca.org. Because crypto was always meant to be for everyone, including you. Learn more at nca.org.

What We Discuss:
0:00 — Wealth Without Gatekeepers
1:36 — Meet Dr. Tonya Evans
3:16 — Law Professor to Crypto Advocate
8:45 — The Trust Revelation
13:36 — Breaking Crypto Myths
16:39 — Crypto Is Only for Criminals?
27:10 — Real Wealth Building
34:15 — Black Wall Street to Web Street
39:50 — Crypto Regulation Explained
49:24 — What Crypto Needs Next

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Sixty-seven million Americans use crypto today, roughly one in four adults, up from one in five a year ago. But NCA's 2026 State of Crypto Holders research found that more than a third of those owners say the thing holding them back from using it more is not money or access. It is that they still do not really understand what they own. Adoption is running ahead of understanding, which almost never happens with a credit card or a 401(k).
Ali sits down with Kara Calvert, Head of US Policy at Coinbase, and Kevin Boucher, Chief Strategy and Communications Officer at Operation HOPE, to unpack why more crypto content has not closed that gap, and what three organizations with very different incentives built to try. Kevin traces Operation HOPE's roots back more than three decades of financial literacy work and describes the moment at a special edition Hope Global Forum when the industry and regulators sat at the same table for the first time. His read on what happened next: the government hesitated, chose to do nothing, and communities were caught in the middle.
Kara makes an unusually candid case for why Coinbase did not simply build this alone. People see educational material from an exchange and wonder what is being sold to them, so a credible third party was the missing piece. She also walks through the pattern she has watched repeat for decades, from her grandmother who lived to 102 and never once carried a credit card, through chip and PIN, through tap to pay, and why she thinks people arrive at crypto for the same reason they adopted each of those. The conversation gets specific on scams, too. Kevin explains why scammers stay a step ahead and which populations get targeted hardest, Kara covers what to actually do in the first hours after you are defrauded, and Ali shares the impersonation scam using NCA's own name that landed in her inbox the day before recording.
The last stretch zooms out to financial inclusion, a phrase Kevin argues means different things depending on who you ask. His framing is that new technology can expand access, but access without understanding only deepens the gaps it was supposed to close. That is the thinking behind the free course now running through Operation HOPE's network of coaches across 300 cities and 1,500 locations, people who live in the communities they serve, with no product to sell. Take the course yourself at operationhope.org or find more free Crypto 101 material at nca.org. Because crypto was always meant to be for everyone, including you. Learn more at nca.org.
What We Discuss:
0:00 – Intro: The Crypto Literacy Gap

0:36 – Why 35% of Crypto Users Still Don't Understand It

2:04 – How This Free Crypto Course Was Built

3:45 – Operation Hope's Journey Into Crypto

16:03 – Crypto Scams: How Big Is the Problem?

23:14 – Inside the Free Crypto Literacy Course

29:47 – Crypto Education vs. DC Policy

35:32 – Can Crypto Close the Wealth Gap?

39:48 – What Financial Inclusion Actually Means

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When people argue about crypto, they usually argue about price. A new economic report suggests the more important story is happening somewhere else entirely: the American job market. In this episode, host Ali Tager sits down with economist Oliver Browne, who helped develop NCA’s Crypto At Work report, to unpack what the numbers say about crypto as a full-fledged American industry rather than just an asset class.
Browne starts by busting a few common myths, that crypto work is only coding and finance, that the jobs all sit in Silicon Valley, and that they vanish the moment prices drop. According to the report, the crypto ecosystem already supports roughly 232,000 jobs across the US in 2026, spanning customer support, accounting, legal, operations, and compliance. And Browne explains that for every direct crypto job, the report finds six more are supported throughout the wider economy, a ripple effect he compares to tossing a stone into a pond, reaching everyone from the law firm and the data center to the corner restaurant and the DoorDash driver.
The conversation digs into the parts that surprised Browne most: an average crypto salary of around $133,000 a year, roughly double the US median, and a map of opportunity that runs well beyond the coasts into Texas, North Carolina, Georgia, and a stretch of heartland and energy-belt states. 
The takeaway, in Browne's framing, is that the question is no longer whether crypto matters to the American economy, but how much, and who gets to share in it.
What We Discuss:
0:00 Crypto myth busted
0:20 232K jobs created
0:55 Not "crypto jobs" soon
1:55 Real people, not just prices
3:15 Myth: finance-only jobs
4:40 Myth: Silicon Valley only
7:00 State-by-state job data
9:05 Crypto works remotely
9:35 Myth: prices kill jobs
11:00 Real crypto job roles
13:20 How 232K was calculated
14:05 1 job supports 6 more
15:35 Which states are growing
17:00 Wages: $133K average
18:30 Wage ripple effects
20:10 $55B economic impact
22:35 Everyday industries impacted
26:15 Crypto bigger than tobacco mfg.
29:15 Rapid-fire: Finish the Sentence
34:00 Recap and takeaways

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