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Welcome back to Think Deep! Season 2 – Deep Ocean Voices Around the World. Thanks for joining us!
This episode takes us into the margins of the Atlantic and two seas that have been shaped by human activities, from oil and gas to tourism – the Gulf of Mexico and the Caribbean Sea. Michelle is joined by Professors Judith Gobin and Erik Cordes, whose lives and careers have been shaped by these waters. Judi and Erik share their passion for deep-sea exploration and ensuring this knowledge is accessible to all.

To learn more about some of the topics discussed in this episode, check out the resources below:
Watch the divestreams from the historic 2026 Caribbean-led research cruise ‘Deep Wonders of Trinidad and Tobago’  

Catch up on the first research cruises to explore Trinidad and Tobago’s deep sea that Judi joined back in 2013 and 2014 

Learn more about Erik’s work in the Gulf of Mexico 

Read the deep-sea oil and gas review paper that Erik led – Environmental Impacts of the Deep-Water Oil and Gas Industry: A Review to Guide Management Strategies – and find out more about the DOSI Offshore Energy Working Group

Develop your science communication skills

Challenge yourself using the Up-Goer Five text editor using only the thousand most common English words 

Learn how to write a Policy Brief with DOSI

Discover Lamellibrachia judigobini – the deep-sea worm species named after Judi! 

If you’re interested in art-science collaborations, why not check out DOSI’s Art, Science and Policy Task Force or the Deep-Sea Biology Society’s ArtSea Matchmaking initiative 

Find out how to engage and contribute to the BBNJ Agreement as a marine scientist

About DOSI:
The Deep-Ocean Stewardship Initiative (DOSI) is a global network of experts working to integrate scientific and humanistic knowledge to inform deep-ocean policy, governance, and stewardship by engaging with policymakers, cultivating capacity and diplomacy, and creating community.
If you work in marine science or governance and are interested in sharing your expertise to inform and support the conservation and sustainable management of the deep ocean, join DOSI today.

About our Season 2 guests:
Professor Judith Gobin is a distinguished marine ecologist from Trinidad and Tobago with over four decades of expertise in marine benthic biodiversity, ocean governance, and sustainable development. Professor Erik Cordes is a deep-sea ecologist and Chair of the Department of Biology at Temple University in Philadelphia. Read their full bios here.

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Think Deep! is produced by Dr Elin Thomas (Communications Manager) and Michelle Guraieb (Host and Editor), with support from David Benjamin Sound. Thank you to our funders, Synchronicity Earth, for making this season possible.
Music: By the Ocean by Remember The Future
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Welcome back to Think Deep! Season 2 – Deep Ocean Voices Around the World. Thanks for listening! We’d love to hear your feedback about the series so far, so leave us a comment below.

In this episode, we’re mapping the knowns and unknowns of the Atlantic Ocean with Dr Kirsty McQuaid and Dr Amelia Bridges. Kirsty and Amelia share their PhD and career journeys so far, their experiences using science to inform conservation and management, and their shared view of how the deep ocean represents possibility – to learn, explore and do things right.

To learn more about some of the topics discussed in this episode, check out the resources below:
Discover Challenger 150 – the UN Ocean Decade-endorsed programme and global cooperative devoted to delivering the science we need to sustainably manage the deep ocean 

Learn more and join the African Network of Deep-Water Researchers

Read the Challenger 150 review papers of the North, Central and South Atlantic’s deep-sea ecosystems – ‘Review of the Central and South Atlantic shelf and deep-sea benthos: science, policy, and management’ & ‘Deep-sea ecosystems of the North Atlantic Ocean: discovery, status, function and future challenges’ 

Find out how to engage and contribute to the BBNJ Agreement as a marine scientist 

Learn more about the International Seabed Authority (ISA) 

Follow the Schmidt Ocean Institute research cruises aboard RV Falkor (too) and submit an expression of interest for new research
 

About DOSI:
The Deep-Ocean Stewardship Initiative (DOSI) is a global network of experts working to integrate scientific and humanistic knowledge to inform deep-ocean policy, governance, and stewardship by engaging with policymakers, cultivating capacity and diplomacy, and creating community.
If you work in marine science or governance and are interested in sharing your expertise to inform and support the conservation and sustainable management of the deep ocean, join DOSI today.

About our Season 2 guests:
Dr Kirsty McQuaid is a Research Associate at Nelson Mandela University, South Africa. Dr Amelia Bridges is a deep-sea ecologist and Assistant Professor at the Sharjah Marine Science Research Centre at the University of Khorfakkan in the United Arab Emirates. Read their full bios here.

Follow us on social media!
Instagram: @deepstewardship
Bluesky: @deepstewardship.bsky.social‬
LinkedIn: Deep-Ocean Stewardship Initiative

Think Deep! is produced by Dr Elin Thomas (Communications Manager) and Michelle Guraieb (Host and Editor), with support from David Benjamin Sound. Thank you to our funders, Synchronicity Earth, for making this season possible.
Music: By the Ocean by Remember The Future
Licensed from PremiumBeat using Standard License #7185897

Welcome to the third episode of Think Deep! Season 2 – Deep Ocean Voices Around the World. Thanks for listening, and don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast.
In this episode, we head to the Indian Ocean, exploring its depths with special guests Sheena Talma and Dr Anthony Bernard. Sheena and Anthony share how they have been collaborating, developing new tools, and championing local capacity to help democratise deep-sea research in the western Indian Ocean, ensuring that people are part of the solution. They share their experiences exploring the deep ocean and learning what it takes to bring that knowledge into policy and management spaces.
If you’re keen to learn more about some of the topics discussed in this episode, check out the resources below:
Read more about Anthony’s work with deep-sea landers in these articles – Strengthening Capacity for Deep-Sea Research in the Global South (2025) & SAIAB supports deep-sea cruise to deepen offshore research capacity in South Africa (2023)

Learn more about Challenger 150 and Ocean Voices, two UN Ocean Decade-endorsed programmes that Sheena is involved with

Follow along with the excitement of the National Geographic and Rolex Perpetual Planet Ocean Expeditions grant that Sheena and Anthony discuss in the episode  

Dive into DOSI

About DOSI:
The Deep-Ocean Stewardship Initiative (DOSI) is a global network of experts working to integrate scientific and humanistic knowledge to inform deep-ocean policy, governance, and stewardship by engaging with policymakers, cultivating capacity and diplomacy, and creating community.
If you work in marine science or governance and are interested in sharing your expertise to inform and support the conservation and sustainable management of the deep ocean, join DOSI today.

Follow us on social media!
Instagram: @deepstewardship
Bluesky: @deepstewardship.bsky.social‬
LinkedIn: Deep-Ocean Stewardship Initiative

Think Deep! is produced by Elin Thomas (Communications Manager) and Michelle Guraieb (Host and Editor), with support from David Benjamin Sound. Thank you to our funders, Synchronicity Earth, for making this season possible.
Music: By the Ocean by Remember The Future
Licensed from PremiumBeat using Standard License #7185897

Welcome to the next episode of Think Deep! Season 2 – Deep Ocean Voices Around the World. Thanks for listening, and if you enjoy this episode, remember to subscribe and leave us a rating.
In this episode, we’re diving deep into the Southwest Pacific, from the Cook Islands to Fiji, with special guests Alanna Matamaru Smith and Rufino Varea. Alanna and Rufino chat with Michelle about the realities of deep-sea exploration, governance and sustainable management in the region, from the impacts of climate change to the emerging deep-sea mining industry. They share their thoughts on how traditional knowledge is evolving with time and the importance of engaging in multilateral spaces, ensuring that the Pacific has a seat at the table of ocean stewardship.
If you’re keen to learn more about some of the topics discussed in this episode, check out the resources below:
Alanna and Rufino both work at the intersection of science, community and policy as Directors of local civil society organisations. Learn more about Te Ipukarea Society and the Pacific Islands Climate Action Network (PICAN) 

Alanna mentions that the Cook Islands are a 99.99% ocean state – find out how much deep sea is in your EEZ here 

Learn more about the Fiji Locally Managed Marine Area Network (FLMMA) for the sustainable management of qoliqoli (traditional fishing grounds) 

Championing tomorrow’s ocean change-makers – discover the Ocean Stewardship Award, established by DOSI co-founder Kristina Gjerde and awarded to Alanna earlier this year 

Dive into DOSI

About DOSI:
The Deep-Ocean Stewardship Initiative (DOSI) is a global network of experts working to integrate scientific and humanistic knowledge to inform deep-ocean policy, governance, and stewardship by engaging with policymakers, cultivating capacity and diplomacy, and creating community.
If you work in marine science or governance and are interested in sharing your expertise to inform and support the conservation and sustainable management of the deep ocean, join DOSI today.
Follow us on social media!
Instagram: @deepstewardship
Bluesky: @deepstewardship.bsky.social‬
Twitter/X: @deepstewardship
LinkedIn: Deep-Ocean Stewardship Initiative

Think Deep! is produced by Elin Thomas (Communications Manager) and Michelle Guraieb (Host and Editor), with support from David Benjamin Sound. Thank you to our funders, Synchronicity Earth, for making this season possible.
Music: By the Ocean by Remember The Future
Licensed from PremiumBeat using Standard License #7185897
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Welcome to the first episode of Season 2 of Think Deep! – Deep Ocean Voices Around the World. Thanks for listening, and be sure to subscribe and leave us a rating.
In this episode, we travel to the Northeast Pacific to explore the deep ocean between the west coast of Canada and Hawaii. Our special guests, Dr Cherisse Du Preez and Dr Sara Kahanamoku, share their stories and showcase how science and traditional knowledge weave together to tell the story of the deep ocean to inspire stewardship and engagement in the region.
If you’re keen to learn more about some of the topics discussed in this episode, check out the resources below:
Learn more about the NorthEast Pacific Deep-sea Exploration Project (NEPDEP) that Cherisse leads

Read the guidance document for working with Indigenous communities that Sara mentioned and learn more about best practices and guiding questions for reciprocal community-researcher partnerships – Kūlana Noiʻi 

Learn more about Motion 32 from the 2025 IUCN World Conservation Congress – Protecting seamounts and vulnerable marine ecosystems from destructive practices, and read the recommendations to the management of seamount ecosystems to the North Pacific Fisheries Commission (NPFC) produced as a result of the DOSI Seamount Science Summit

Deepen your knowledge of the region with the recent Challenger 150 review paper on the ‘State of deep-sea science and conservation in the Northeast Pacific: implications for policy and management’

Explore the Papahānaumokuākea National Marine Sanctuary  

Find out more about Cherisse’s cool career – People of the Ocean Decade: Dr. Cherisse Du Preez  

Dive into deep-ocean stewardship with DOSI 

About DOSI:
The Deep-Ocean Stewardship Initiative (DOSI) is a global network of experts working to integrate scientific and humanistic knowledge to inform deep-ocean policy, governance, and stewardship by engaging with policymakers, cultivating capacity and diplomacy, and creating community.
If you work in marine science or governance and are interested in sharing your expertise to inform and support the conservation and sustainable management of the deep ocean, join DOSI today.
Follow us on social media!
Instagram: @deepstewardship
Bluesky: @deepstewardship.bsky.social‬
Twitter/X: @deepstewardship
LinkedIn: Deep-Ocean Stewardship Initiative

Think Deep! is produced by Elin Thomas (Communications Manager) and Michelle Guraieb (Host and Editor), with support from David Benjamin Sound. Thank you to our funders, Synchronicity Earth, for making this season possible.
Music: By the Ocean by Remember The Future. Licensed from PremiumBeat using Standard License #7185897