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Deeply Intents is a podcast hosted by Apriori. There are two primary motivations; unpack Anoma with relevant guests, and have interesting conversations with val...
In this episode of Deeply Intents C-Node and I talk about his journey through crypto from Ethereum to MPC research to Solana and eventually Cosmos (Celestia). We discuss C-Node's twitter lore, his research on based rollups and profitable censorship MEV. We talk about regulatory arbitrage, stable coins, subjectivocracy, hard forks, L2 bridge hacks, building on permissionless systems, rollup governance, and recursive proofs of consensus history. Chapters(00:00) - C-Node Introduction(07:37) - Twitter lore(15:20) - Vitalik's Trilemma(21:25) - Celestia (28:14) - Based rollups(33:53) - Profitable censorship MEV(39:33) - FOCIL + MCP(42:02) - Favourite rollup stack(50:22) - Flipping the bird(52:00) - Regulatory arbitrage(57:00) - Cash based society(1:02:00) - Unfuckwithable money(1:05:45) - Hypothetical hard forks(1:15:00) - L2 bridge hacks(1:19:40) - You can just build things(1:26:09) - Rollup governance(1:30:40) - Succinct residency
DisclaimerNothing in this episode should be interpreted as financial, technical, or legal advice. The host does contract work for Heliax, a public goods laboratory, focusing on Anoma.
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The Ecosystem is Moving - Bo Du
In this episode Bo Du, co-founder of Polymer Labs, and I discuss his journey from Web 2, with a focus on database systems, to building in crypto. We discuss his time in Cosmos, the past and future of IBC, and building on Ethereum. The conversation progresses towards Polymer's approach to interop, rollup clusters, high performance infra, the best use cases for on chain liquidity, and leveraging tokens to incentive coordination. We finish by discussing Bo's time working on based sequencing (Ethereum) in Chiang Mai and his personal journey through leadership at Polymer. Chapters(00:00) - Introduction (02:58) - DB systems to crypto(07:00) - Cosmos(09:03) - IBC(16:24) - Building on Ethereum (20:43) - State Proving (28:37) - Polymer as Kafka(36:00) - Rollup clusters(41:04) - High performance infra(46:50) - Latency(52:25) - Building on chain(1:00:25) - Token-Protocol seperation(1:10:56) - Ethereum community(1:22:00) - Leadership Journey
DisclaimerNothing in this episode should be interpreted as financial, technical, or legal advice. The host does contract work for Heliax, a public goods laboratory, focusing on Anoma.
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Worse is Better - Jeremy Ornelas
In this episode of Deeply Intents, Jeremy traces the evolution of programming languages starting with Lisp. We explore Lisp's role in AI development, the AI winter, and why static languages like C and Rust dominate today instead of live systems like Lisp. Jeremy breaks down Anoma as a distributed OS challenging Unix's paradigms, along with the benefits of live hackable systems realized with Anoma Level. We then weave through systems design, specs driven software development, and the limitations of blockchain programming environments.Chapters (00:00) - Introduction (03:05) - Lisp(06:01) - The Rise of C(09:14) - PL as Pop Culture(11:53) - AI Winter(17:53) - Operating Systems (OS) (33:56) - Programming and Society(41:20) - Intentional vs Accidental OS(46:49) - Introducing Anoma Level(55:02) - Applications of Anoma(1:00:41) - Effective Executives(1:20:29) - Limits of blockchains(1:29:09) - Incentives in crypto (1:35:56) - PL Innovation(1:45:49) - Advice ReferencesWorse is Better - https://bit.ly/lispworseisbetterAnoma Level - https://bit.ly/AnomaLevel
DisclaimerNothing in this episode should be interpreted as financial, technical, or legal advice. The host does contract work for Heliax, a public goods laboratory, focusing on Anoma.
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Skin in the Game - Vishwa Naik
In this episode of Deeply Intents, I talk with Vishwa, co-founder and CEO of Anera Labs. He shares insights on entrepreneurship across India and the West. We explore Intents, MEV and Solvers. We zoom in on Solvers - discussing their decomposition and Vishwa proposes a new definition. We discuss onchain liquidity, compare Solver dynamics in Solana vs. Ethereum, and examine UX and best execution for DeFi users. We finish the episode by exploring AI (Agents/LLMs), ways to close the competitive gap between centralized and decentralized exchanges, and the future of OTC markets, privacy, and counterparty discovery. Chapters(00:00) - Introduction to Vishwa and Anera(05:59) - Challenges and Opportunities in Indian Startups(08:54) - Regulatory Landscape in India(11:49) - Cultural Differences in Innovation(14:56) - Building Tools for Indian Entrepreneurs(20:58) - Talent and Labor Dynamics in Crypto(26:53) - User Experience and Market Fit(30:10) - The Journey into MEV and Intents(49:05) - Understanding Solvers: Definitions and Roles(1:02:51) - The Future of On-Chain Liquidity(1:06:34) - User Experience in DeFi: The Role of UX and Innovation(1:16:46) - Challenges in AI and Blockchain Data(1:22:06) - Decentralized vs Centralized Exchanges(1:30:41) - Bridging Centralized and Decentralized Finance(1:39:54) - The Future of OTC Markets and Privacy(1:42:42) - Final Thoughts and Future Directions
DisclaimerNothing in this episode should be interpreted as financial, technical, or legal advice. The host does contract work for Heliax, a public goods laboratory, focusing on Anoma.
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Unbundling Anoma - Christopher Goes
This episode features Christopher Goes, co-founder of Anoma. Together, we explore Anoma's architecture, intent-centric applications, the Resource Machine and how it relates to the EVM, and Anoma's north star. We had a blast recording this one. We start by diving into Anoma as a distributed operating system, unpacking what intent-centric applications mean in the context of Anoma, Ethereum smart contracts, and app chains. Indeed, we covered practical examples like ride-sharing, crowdfunding, and mechanism design with programmable privacy. Later, we compared the Anoma Resource Machine (ARM) with the Ethereum Virtual Machine (EVM), and touched on Resource Plasma for scaling. We wrapped up discussing Anoma's north star, political philosophy, and user agency in contemporary systems.Timestamps(00:00) - Introduction to Anoma and Christopher Goes(03:14) - Understanding Anoma: A Distributed Operating System(10:13) - Building Applications on Anoma vs. Traditional Blockchains(22:32) - The ART Process: Internal Peer Review and Research(32:20) - Affordances of Intent-Centric Applications(38:27) - Decentralizing Ride-Sharing Protocols(42:34) - Insurance in Decentralized Applications(46:27) - Programmable Privacy and Financial Applications(49:38) - Public Signal: A New Crowdfunding Approach(54:19) - The Anoma Resource Machine Explained(01:12:50) - Exploring Plasma as a Scaling Solution(01:15:33) - Leveraging Anoma's Peer-to-Peer Network(01:17:14) - The Future of Networking Protocols(01:23:39) - Anoma's North Star: Principles and Philosophies(01:32:50) - Addressing Regulatory Capture and User Empowerment
DisclaimerNothing in this episode should be interpreted as financial, technical, or legal advice. The host does contract work for Heliax, a public goods laboratory, focusing on Anoma.
Deeply Intents is a podcast hosted by Apriori. There are two primary motivations; unpack Anoma with relevant guests, and have interesting conversations with values aligned builders. The podcast is long-form content, with an emphasis on the human element.