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Mick Mulroy and Jonathan Hackett break down the latest on the Iran war, including the stalled ceasefire talks, the Strait of Hormuz crisis, Israel and Hezbollah, sanctions, and whether the U.S. air campaign has created more strategic problems than it solved. They also dig into Israeli spying concerns, the ODNI shakeup after Tulsi Gabbard’s exit, and how Russia and Iran are using gaming platforms, crypto, cyber, AI, and new tech to reshape modern intelligence work.
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"Karl Casey @ White Bat Audio
00:00 — Start / Eyes On crew checks in and the Iran war remains in a holding pattern
01:22 — Iran ceasefire talks, the Strait of Hormuz, and what the U.S. can’t give away
04:39 — Iran’s survival mode, internet access, China, Russia, and waiting out the U.S.
07:29 — Israel, Hezbollah, Lebanon, and why no side may actually want the same deal
08:45 — The blockade, Iranian capital flight, and why sanctions may hit the people more than the regime
12:16 — Was the Iran air campaign a strategic mistake?
16:24 — Why America keeps winning battles but losing wars
21:15 — Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan, and the consequences of bad policy objectives
24:59 — Ceasefire rumors, weak negotiations, and Iran’s experienced diplomatic team
30:27 — Could covert action and unconventional warfare bring regime change in Iran?
37:14 — DIA raises concern over Israeli spying on the U.S.
46:16 — Tulsi Gabbard out, ODNI shakeup, and whether intelligence could be politicized
55:46 — Russia and Iran recruiting teenagers through gaming platforms and crypto
58:00 — Cyber, AI, quantum computing, and the future of intelligence work
01:07:38 — Whitefish Security Summit, Patreon, and closing thoughts

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Former Army officer and CIA operations officer Delbert Roll joins us to discuss his path from Third Special Forces Group to the Agency, including joining CIA just before 9/11 and working counterterrorism operations in Afghanistan. He breaks down CIA training, running sources, building targeting packages against al-Qaeda, working with JSOC and indigenous forces, and the realities of protecting assets in the field.
The episode also covers covert action, counterintelligence, counter-WMD work, teaching at the Farm, CIA bureaucracy, writing after retirement, and the bizarre CIA gold bar scandal.
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"Karl Casey @ White Bat Audio"

00:00 — Start / Delbert Roll joins The Team House
01:10 — Growing up in Pennsylvania and joining the Army
07:06 — Third Special Forces Group, Africa missions, and comms work in the 1990s
15:09 — Leaving the Army and trying to join the FBI before the CIA
16:04 — Joining CIA three weeks before 9/11
21:09 — The day after 9/11 and CIA’s shift toward counterterrorism
23:46 — Moving from analyst to operations officer
25:20 — CIA training and “Ranger School for your brain”
30:42 — First Afghanistan tour and arriving at a forward operating base
33:22 — Running a source operation against a senior al-Qaeda target
39:13 — Building a targeting package without GPS coordinates
44:40 — Airstrike decision, protecting assets, and the target slipping away
48:54 — Working with JSOC and indigenous forces to shut down rat lines
52:47 — CIA support to conventional Army units in Afghanistan
56:17 — Language training, European posting, and traditional case officer work
01:04:25 — Covert action, liaison partners, and gathering intelligence through proxies
01:05:05 — Counterintelligence, recruiting foreign officers, and disrupting Russian operations
01:09:07 — Counter-WMD work and handling sources without being the technical expert
01:12:50 — Teaching at the Farm and training future CIA officers
01:22:29 — CIA bureaucracy, NSA comparisons, and publication review problems
01:27:58 — Recruiting, technology, and learning how to talk around classified subjects
01:28:57 — From CIA officer to fantasy, spy, and horror novelist
01:43:42 — CIA gold bars, non-traditional payments, and final thoughts

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In this in-depth interview, former Green Beret Mike Taylor shares his expert insights on the current geopolitical situation in the Middle East, focusing on Iran, Hezbollah, and U.S. strategies. We explore historical context, regime change tactics, and potential paths forward for peace and stability.
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"Karl Casey @ White Bat Audio

00:00 Start
01:12 Current Situation in Iran and the Middle East
02:55 Historical Context of U.S.-Iran Relations
10:25 Strategies for Regime Change in Iran
15:48 Political Dynamics and Military Strategy
19:15 The Role of Technology in Modern Warfare
25:52 Conclusion: The Future of U.S.-Iran Relations
26:25 The Impact of Protests and U.S. Response
28:43 The Role of Diplomacy and Military Expertise
30:25 Hezbollah's Influence and Regional Dynamics
32:35 The Complexity of Israeli-Palestinian Relations
35:46 The Need for Regime Change in Iran
39:41 Negotiating with Iran: Challenges and Realities
44:05 The Future of U.S.-Iran Relations and Regional Stability

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The guys break down the still-unresolved Iran ceasefire talks, the Strait of Hormuz crisis, possible sanctions relief, and whether the U.S. is about to reward Tehran just to return to the status quo. They also dig into nuclear inspections, Iran’s hardliners, Israel’s push deeper into Lebanon, Hezbollah’s drone threat, and the political bind Trump now faces.
The episode also covers the CIA executive arrested with gold bars, cash, and luxury watches, plus the proposed NDAA language that could deepen U.S.-Israel military and technology integration.
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"Karl Casey @ White Bat Audio
00:00 — Start 
01:32 — Strait of Hormuz crisis and why it affects the entire world
04:08 — What should Iran get for reopening the Strait?
07:20 — Rewarding Iran, global chokepoints, and the precedent for other countries
09:23 — Highly enriched uranium, China, Kazakhstan, and monitoring problems
12:00 — Why the U.S. should be pushing internet access into Iran
13:59 — Trump’s options, sanctions relief, and the backlash to “JCPOA 2.0”
16:18 — Did the Iran war actually improve anything for the U.S. or Iranian people?
20:31 — Trump’s political bind, gas prices, and whether there are any good options left
24:01 — What the U.S. and allies could realistically do to reopen Hormuz
29:29 — Why allies may not want to risk lives for a war the U.S. started
31:51 — Nuclear inspections, Iran’s hardliners, and why Tehran may want nukes more than ever
34:38 — Israel pushes deeper into Lebanon and the symbolism of Beaufort Castle
38:50 — Hezbollah, drones, and Israel’s fear of losing freedom of movement
42:13 — Israeli politics, Gaza, Netanyahu, and the limits of military force
46:15 — CIA executive arrested with gold bars, cash, and luxury watches
50:22 — How did he get through CIA security screening and internal oversight?
53:05 — Counterintelligence concerns and how CIA tech officers support operations
56:24 — NDAA Section 224 and proposed U.S.-Israel military/tech integration
01:00:34 — Counterintelligence concerns, Title 10 limits, and what the bill actually does
01:02:35 — Knicks, Trump at MSG, Patreon, and closing thoughts

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The guys break down the still-unresolved Iran ceasefire talks, the Strait of Hormuz crisis, possible sanctions relief, and whether the U.S. is about to reward Tehran just to return to the status quo. They also dig into nuclear inspections, Iran’s hardliners, Israel’s push deeper into Lebanon, Hezbollah’s drone threat, and the political bind Trump now faces.
The episode also covers the CIA executive arrested with gold bars, cash, and luxury watches, plus the proposed NDAA language that could deepen U.S.-Israel military and technology integration.
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"Karl Casey @ White Bat Audio
00:00 — Start 
01:32 — Strait of Hormuz crisis and why it affects the entire world
04:08 — What should Iran get for reopening the Strait?
07:20 — Rewarding Iran, global chokepoints, and the precedent for other countries
09:23 — Highly enriched uranium, China, Kazakhstan, and monitoring problems
12:00 — Why the U.S. should be pushing internet access into Iran
13:59 — Trump’s options, sanctions relief, and the backlash to “JCPOA 2.0”
16:18 — Did the Iran war actually improve anything for the U.S. or Iranian people?
20:31 — Trump’s political bind, gas prices, and whether there are any good options left
24:01 — What the U.S. and allies could realistically do to reopen Hormuz
29:29 — Why allies may not want to risk lives for a war the U.S. started
31:51 — Nuclear inspections, Iran’s hardliners, and why Tehran may want nukes more than ever
34:38 — Israel pushes deeper into Lebanon and the symbolism of Beaufort Castle
38:50 — Hezbollah, drones, and Israel’s fear of losing freedom of movement
42:13 — Israeli politics, Gaza, Netanyahu, and the limits of military force
46:15 — CIA executive arrested with gold bars, cash, and luxury watches
50:22 — How did he get through CIA security screening and internal oversight?
53:05 — Counterintelligence concerns and how CIA tech officers support operations
56:24 — NDAA Section 224 and proposed U.S.-Israel military/tech integration
01:00:34 — Counterintelligence concerns, Title 10 limits, and what the bill actually does
01:02:35 — Knicks, Trump at MSG, Patreon, and closing thoughts

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