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Most people spend years chasing a record. Jane Hedengren did it on her first try.

On April 3rd at the Stanford Invitational, BYU freshman Jane Hedengren stepped onto the track for her first-ever collegiate outdoor race and ran 30:46.80, the fastest collegiate 10,000m in NCAA history. She broke Parker Valby's record by nearly four seconds. 

That's who TRE is sitting down with this week.     

But this episode isn't really about the record. It's about what it takes to perform at that level before you've had time to be afraid of it. Jane is 19 years old, the daughter of an All-American runner, competing for BYU under head coach Diljeet Taylor—and she is doing things in her freshman year that most distance runners never do in a career. Two NCAA indoor titles. The indoor 5,000m record. And now this.

The numbers are already legendary. 

What this conversation goes after is everything behind them: the race tactics, the mindset between back-to-back NCAA gold medals, the training system that built her, and the question that’s been nagging many in the industry: does she let herself think about the 2028 Olympics?

TRE does. And you will too by the end of this one.
conversation that is long overdue.

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Quentin Nauman is already a legend in Iowa. This spring season is the encore

The greatest prep distance runner in Iowa history enters his final outdoor season with 10 state titles, two national championships, and one goal left unfinished.  

Two weeks ago at Nike Indoor Nationals, Nauman anchored Iowa's DMR team to a national title in 9:46.23, edging Texas by under a second in a dramatic final 200 meters. For an athlete defined by solo dominance, it was a glimpse of something new. 

Now he's back for his last run at the Drake Relays triple sweep (800m, 1600m, 3200m), and a legitimate shot at the national high school mile record before heading to Oregon in the fall.

This is a return visit for Quentin, and the story has gotten bigger. This episode is part of The Running Effect's ongoing Festival of Miles series.
One more outdoor season. One more shot at the record. One last chance to cement a legacy that's already unlike anything Iowa has ever seen. 

In this episode, Quentin opens up on the NIN team win, the Oregon decision, coach Elaina Biechler, and what it actually feels like to be chasing something when you've already won everything.

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Colorado-born elite runner turned entrepreneur David Perry is here—a guy who went from captain of Adidas Runners NYC to founder of one of the most talked-about jewelry brands in the athletic world. 

David gained notoriety in the NYC running community before founding his own luxury jewelry brand, David Perry Jewelry. He was an All-America runner at the University of Portland, where he competed in Cross Country and Track & Field.

As a middle-to-long-distance specialist, he has times like 3:45.61 in the 1500m and 23:18 in the 8,000m under his belt. Post-collegiately, he became a captain for Adidas Runners NYC, while staying heavily involved in the city's running culture. Although he set out in 2018 to make the U.S. Olympic Marathon trials and failed to do so in 2020, his ambition is nothing to frown at; he also signed Olympic gold medalist Grant Holloway as the brand's first-ever ambassador in 2024.

From the trails of Colorado, to the roads of New York City, to the Olympic stage in Paris, David Perry's journey is proof that your biggest ambitions don't always look the way you planned them. He set out to make the Olympic Marathon Trials. Instead, he built a brand that made it to the Olympics anyway.

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He won a world title on spring break. Monday morning, he was back in class.

Cooper Lutkenhaus is 17 years old and the youngest world champion in the history of track and field. Weeks after Toruń, he sits down with The Running Effect to answer the question nobody else has asked: what does life actually look like on the other side of history?

The Nike contract signed at 16. The high school coach he still trusts with everything. The Tokyo wound that quietly powered an unbeaten indoor season from the inside out. Stockholm is on the calendar. June 7, Diamond League, the best half-milers alive. This episode is the discussion before that.

His winning time in Poland was 1:44.24—third fastest in World Indoor Championships history. His outdoor PR is 1:42.27, the World U18 record and the U.S. high school record, set at the USATF Outdoor Championships in July 2025. He was 17 years and 93 days old when the gold went around his neck, and no individual world champion (indoors or outdoors, in any event) has ever been younger. He ran seven races this indoor season. He won all seven.

The budding legend of Cooper continues here with TRE.

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Mark Dowdle didn't grow up a runner. 

He was a two-sport college athlete who heard David Goggins on a podcast during a bus ride home from a losing lacrosse trip, and decided to become a different person.

Six years later, he's on Team USA. 

He's won backyard ultras covering 283 miles in 68 straight hours. He ran 135 miles through Northern Minnesota in sub-zero January temps and took first place. He spent an entire year running the day of the month in miles (every single day),  logging 6,400 miles before most people finished their morning coffee. 

He quit his job to go all in. And this October, he will represent the United States at the Big Dog's Backyard Ultra World Championship in Bell Buckle, Tennessee.

This is the kind of athlete that makes you question every excuse you've ever made.

Mark doesn't talk about motivation. He talks about systems. About decisions. About the thousand small choices inside a single race that determine who you actually are when no one is watching and everything hurts.

This conversation will mess with you—in the best way.

Press play.

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