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    How Polymorphic Malware Evades Detection — And What to Do About It

    06.04.2026 | 29 Min.
    Polymorphic malware is the kind of threat that changes its own code — its signature, its behavior, even the command-and-control server it reports to — specifically so your antivirus can't catch it. In this episode, Dr. Mike Saylor of Black Swan Cybersecurity joins Prasanna and me to break down exactly how this works, why signature-based detection keeps losing the race, and what defenders actually need to do differently.
    Mike walks us through ViraLock, one of the most well-known early examples of polymorphic malware, and explains the gap between infection and detection that attackers exploit. We also get into the difference between polymorphic and metamorphic malware — and metamorphic is a lot scarier. Then we cover waterhole attacks, a red team story that will make you rethink how fast attackers can own a network, and what behavioral detection looks like when it's actually working.
    If you thought keeping your antivirus updated was enough, this episode is going to change your mind.
    Chapters:
    00:00:00 – Intro
    01:35 – Meet the guests: Prasanna Malaiyandi and Dr. Mike Saylor
    02:58 – What is polymorphic malware? The ViraLock story
    05:52 – How polymorphic code changes its own signature
    10:04 – Disguised executables and the human factor
    12:23 – Polymorphic vs. static malware: what's the real difference?
    14:15 – Metamorphic malware: nation-state-level scary
    16:01 – The Frankenstein virus: a conceptual metamorphic example
    16:52 – Waterhole attacks: infecting the shared file everyone downloads
    18:32 – How polymorphic malware stays alive: the red team story
    21:28 – Behavioral detection and baselining: how you actually fight back
    26:57 – Risk-based defense: protect what matters most
  • The Backup Wrap-Up

    Emergency Episode: The PyPI Software Supply Chain Attack You Need to Know About

    26.03.2026 | 56 Min.
    A PyPI software supply chain attack hit LiteLLM — a library pulled into developer environments 97 million times a month — and if you use it, you may already be compromised. This wasn't a fake package or a typo-squatting trick. Attackers stole real credentials, published malicious code as the real thing, and walked out with SSH keys, cloud credentials, Kubernetes tokens, API keys, and more — all encrypted and sent home before anyone knew what happened.
    I'm doing something I've never done before: an emergency episode, recorded and published immediately because this is that serious. I brought in Dr. Mike Saylor, co-author of our book Learning Ransomware Response and Recovery, and my co-host Prasanna Malaiyandi to break down exactly what happened, how to find out if you were hit, and what you need to do to protect yourself going forward.
    We open with a story from 1982 that perfectly captures what this attack really is — getting poisoned by something you trusted completely. That framing matters. This wasn't a failure of the library. It was a failure of the supply chain. And it can happen again.
    Chapters:
    00:00:00 - Intro: Why this is an emergency episode
    00:01:35 - Meet the guests: Dr. Mike Saylor and Prasanna Malaiyandi
    00:02:31 - The Tylenol poisoning analogy and what it means for software supply chains
    00:05:51 - What LiteLLM is and what the malware actually did to your environment
    00:09:04 - Dependencies explained: why you're affected even if you didn't install LiteLLM directly
    00:12:24 - How to find out if you were hit: the first things to check right now
    00:14:23 - IOCs and TTPs: what to look for in your logs and on your systems
    00:19:07 - Network indicators: unusual traffic and what it tells you
    00:22:12 - How security teams can find out if developers installed it without telling anyone
    00:30:38 - Action items for the future: inventory, pinning, and hash verification
    00:36:55 - Sandboxing new downloads before they touch your environment
    00:37:59 - Immutable backups: why this attack makes the case for them
    00:40:33 - Modern authentication: MFA, its limits, and why passkeys matter
    00:46:53 - Where to get threat intel so you hear about attacks like this faster
    00:53:23 - Wrap-up
    If you installed or upgraded LiteLLM on or after March 24, 2026 without a pinned version, stop what you're doing and listen to this episode first.
    The story:
    https://futuresearch.ai/blog/litellm-pypi-supply-chain-attack/
    https://securitylabs.datadoghq.com/articles/litellm-compromised-pypi-teampcp-supply-chain-campaign/
    https://snyk.io/articles/poisoned-security-scanner-backdooring-litellm/
    https://www.wiz.io/blog/threes-a-crowd-teampcp-trojanizes-litellm-in-continuation-of-campaign
    https://checkmarx.com/zero-post/python-pypi-supply-chain-attack-colorama/
    https://www.upwind.io/feed/litellm-pypi-supply-chain-attack-malicious-release
    https://docs.litellm.ai/blog/security-update-march-2026
    https://www.helpnetsecurity.com/2026/03/25/teampcp-supply-chain-attacks/
    https://www.darktrace.com/resources/the-cisos-guide-to-cyber-ai
    https://securitylabs.datadoghq.com/articles/litellm-compromised-pypi-teampcp-supply-chain-campaign/
    Resources:
    https://www.stopransomware.com
    https://www.cisa.gov
    https://www.cve.org/
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    Fileless Malware: The Attack That Lives in Memory

    23.03.2026 | 32 Min.
    Fileless malware is one of the most dangerous attack types out there — it never writes to your hard drive, lives entirely in RAM, and can steal your credentials before your antivirus has any idea it's there. In this episode, I bring in Dr. Mike Saylor — my co-author on Learning Ransomware Response & Recovery — to break down exactly how this attack works, why it's so hard to detect, and what you can actually do to protect yourself.
    Mike walks us through how fileless malware hides in memory, how bad guys maintain their foothold even after a reboot by modifying registry keys or rewriting the operating system itself, and why the ArcGIS attack is a perfect real-world example — attackers sitting undetected inside a network for two years. We also get into MFA, specifically why a lot of MFA setups are done wrong, why passkeys are the better answer, and when it's time to bring in an EDR or XDR tool.
    Fair warning: the action items here are a bit more advanced than our usual stuff. Think of this as the 401k conversation — don't have it before you've built your emergency fund. But this is stuff you absolutely need to know.
    00:01:26 - Welcome & intro
    00:04:43 - What is fileless malware?
    00:09:16 - How fileless malware achieves persistence (ArcGIS case study)
    00:15:02 - Can fileless malware spread beyond one machine?
    00:16:43 - Defending yourself: MFA done right
    00:20:38 - Why passkeys beat MFA
    00:23:00 - EDR and XDR explained
    00:28:03 - How modern EDR tools detect fileless malware
    00:30:01 - Wrap-up and action items
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    Living Off the Land Attack: Hackers Using Your Own Tools Against You

    16.03.2026 | 46 Min.
    A living off the land attack is one of the sneakiest techniques in a ransomware operator's playbook — and in this episode, Dr. Mike Saylor breaks down exactly what it is, how it works, and what your organization can actually do about it.
    Instead of bringing their own tools into your environment (which might trip your alarms), attackers just use what's already there. PowerShell. WMI. RDP. The same tools your admins run every single day. To your monitoring systems, it looks completely normal. That's the whole point.
    Mike and Curtis cover why attackers prefer your tools over their own, how recon can quietly run for 30 to 90 days before the attack goes loud, and what defenders can actually do about it — removing admin privileges, system hardening, golden images, application whitelisting, and free tools like Nmap and Wireshark. There's also a match.com story involving organized crime and a wooden casket on someone's front porch that you really don't want to miss.
    0:00 - Intro
    1:21 - Welcome and Book Announcement
    3:28 - What Is a Living Off the Land Attack?
    5:38 - Real-World Example: Conti Ransomware and WMI
    8:12 - Why Attackers Use Your Tools Instead of Their Own
    13:05 - Admin Privileges: Best Practice vs. Reality
    17:31 - The Louvre Heist Analogy
    20:08 - Recon Phase: Low and Slow
    24:16 - What Defenders Can Do
    25:55 - RDP and Remote Access
    29:48 - The Recon Timeline: 30-90 Days
    30:48 - PowerShell and System Hardening
    34:10 - Network Discovery Tools (Nmap and Wireshark)
    37:37 - Application Whitelisting and Geo IP Blocking
    42:08 - Action Items and Wrap-Up
  • The Backup Wrap-Up

    New Research Exposes Password Manager Vulnerabilities in LastPass, Bitwarden & Dashlane

    09.03.2026 | 43 Min.
    Password manager vulnerabilities aren't just about bad code — and a new research paper out of Zurich just proved it. Researchers analyzed three of the most popular password managers and found fundamental design flaws baked into the very architecture that's supposed to keep your credentials safe. Curtis and Prasanna break it all down and tell you what to do about it.
    If you've ever been that person who asks "but what if the password manager gets hacked?" — this episode is for you. And if you haven't been asking that question, you probably should start. A research team looked at LastPass, Bitwarden, and Dashlane — products with a combined 60 million users representing roughly 23% of the password manager market — and what they found wasn't sloppy programming. It was something harder to fix: architectural problems at the core of how encrypted vaults work.
    Curtis walks through how the zero-knowledge encryption model works, why the vault recovery process creates an inherent trust problem, and why the researchers were able to exploit that trust by impersonating the server during vault recovery. Prasanna adds another layer — the field-level encryption issues inside the vaults themselves, where there's no strong verification that data hasn't been manipulated. It's not theoretical. It's a real attack surface.
    The good news? Curtis still believes password managers are the right tool for today — better than sticky notes on a monitor (yes, he saw that in real life) and better than reusing passwords. But he's also clear that passkeys are the right direction for the future, even if the current implementation is still a little rough around the edges.
    https://eprint.iacr.org/2026/058.pdf
    https://www.theregister.com/2026/02/16/password_managers/
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/daveywinder/2026/01/23/lastpass-issues-critical-warning-for-users---password-attacks-underway/

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Formerly known as "Restore it All," The Backup Wrap-up podcast turns unappreciated backup admins into cyber recovery heroes. After a brief analysis of backup-related news, each episode dives deep into one topic that you can use to better protect your organization from data loss, be it from accidents, disasters, or ransomware.   The Backup Wrap-up is hosted by W. Curtis Preston (Mr. Backup) and his co-host Prasanna Malaiyandi. Curtis' passion for backups began over 30 years ago when his employer, a $35B bank, lost its purchasing database – and the backups he was in charge of were worthless. After miraculously not being fired, he resolved to learn everything he could about a topic most people try to get away from.  His co-host, Prasanna, saw similar tragedies from the vendor side of the house and also wanted to do whatever he could to stop that from happening to others. A particular focus lately has been the scourge of ransomware that is plaguing IT organizations across the globe.  That's why in addition to backup and disaster recovery, we also touch on information security techniques you can use to protect your backup systems from ransomware.  If you'd like to go from being unappreciated to being a cyber recovery hero, this is the podcast for you.
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