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  • Episode 462: Ben Smith
    Ben Smith is the media columnist for The New York Times. He was the founding editor-in-chief of BuzzFeed News. ”I do think there's some kind of personality flaw deep in there of wanting to like, you know, find stuff out and tell people.... I'm not sure that's a totally sane or healthy personality trait, but it is definitely, for me, a personality trait…. I think that in political reporting, certainly, there's a kind of reporter who thinks that their job is basically to pull the masks off of these monsters. And I generally tend to think all these people—with some exceptions—are weird and complicated and often doing really awful things. But they aren't necessarily irredeemable or impossible to understand…. They're interesting.” Show notes: @benyt Smith on Longform Smith on Longform Podcast Smith's New York Times archive Smith's BuzzFeed News archive 04:00 "Goldman Sachs, Ozy Media and a $40 Million Conference Call Gone Wrong" (New York Times • Sept 2021) 11:00 "At Axel Springer, Politico’s New Owner, Allegations of Sex, Lies and a Secret Payment" (New York Times • Oct 2021) 11:00 "Powerful German Newspaper Ousts Editor After Times Report on Workplace Behavior" (New York Times • Oct 2021) 15:00 "Uber Executive Suggests Digging Up Dirt On Journalists" (BuzzFeed News • Nov 2014) 15:00 "Starting Trouble With Times Media Columnist Ben Smith" (New York Magazine • Sept 2020) 15:00 "Chaos Theory: A Unified Theory of Muppet Types" (Dahlia Lithwick • Slate • Jun 2012) 21:00 "Postcard From Peru: Why the Morality Plays Inside The Times Won’t Stop" (New York Times • Feb 2021) 21:00 "An Arrest in Canada Casts a Shadow on a New York Times Star" (New York Times • Oct 2020) 22:00 "What’s Really Happening At The New York Times" (BuzzFeed • Nov 2019) 23:00 "Why the Success of The New York Times May Be Bad News for Journalism" (New York Times • Mar 2020) 23:00 "Exclusive: New York Times Editor Dean Baquet Has Been Running the Gray Lady from L.A." (Kali Hays • Los Angeles Magazine • July 2021) 24:00 "Why Hasn’t the New York Times Made Ben Smith Sell His BuzzFeed Options Yet?" (Justin Peters • Slate • Oct 2021) 27:00 David Carr's New York Times archive 33:00 "Muslims Barred from Picture at Obama Event" (Politico • Jun 2008) 36:00 "Ghostwriting" (Alex Sujong Laughlin • Study Hall • Oct 2021) 38:00 "These Reports Allege Trump Has Deep Ties to Russia" (Ken Bensigner, Miriam Elder, Mark Schoofs • BuzzFeed News • Jan 2017) 40:00 Platformer (Casey Newton) 40:00 Garbage Day (Ryan Broderick) 40:00 Ask Polly (Heather Havrilesky) 40:00 Ask Molly (Heather Havrilesky) 41:00 70 Over 70 (Max Linsky • Pineapple Street Studios) 41:00 "What’s the Key to a Good Life? Ask the People Who’ve Lived Long Enough to Know." (Margaret Sullivan • The Washington Post • May 2021) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
  • Episode 461: Jay Caspian Kang
    Jay Caspian Kang is a contributor at New York Times Magazine. His new book is The Loneliest Americans. ”I have a lot of thoughts and talk to people to make sure my thoughts are right, or change them because I think they're wrong. What more does one want out of an intellectual life? It's good work.” Show notes: @jaycaspiankang Kang on Longform Kang on Longform Podcast (Apr 2013) Kang on Longform Podcast (Aug 2017) Kang’s New York Times Magazine newsletter 5:00 "The High Is Always the Pain and the Pain Is Always the High" (The Morning News • Oct 2010) 12:00 "Bing Liu Sees Skateboarding as a Tool for Life" (New York Times Magazine • Jan 2019) 35:00 Time To Say Goodbye podcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
  • Episode 460: Mary Roach
    Mary Roach is the author of seven nonfiction books, including her latest, Fuzz: When Nature Breaks the Law. "In these realms of the taboo, there's a tremendous amount of material that is really interesting, but that people have stayed away from. ... I'm kind of a bottom feeder. It's down there on the bottom where people don't want to go. But if that's what it takes to find interesting, new material, I'm fine with it. I don't care. I'm not easily grossed out. I don't feel that there's any reason why we shouldn't look at this. And over time, I started to feel that ... the taboo was preventing people from having conversations that it would be healthy to have." Show notes: @mary_roach Roach on Longform 01:00 Fuzz: When Nature Breaks the Law (W.W. Norton • 2021) 01:00 Stiff: The Curious Lives of Human Cadavers (W.W. Norton • 2003) 01:00 Bonk: The Curious Coupling of Science and Sex (W.W. Norton • 2008) 01:00 Packing for Mars: The Curious Science of Life in the Void (W.W. Norton • 2010) 01:00 Gulp: Adventures on the Alimentary Canal (W.W. Norton • 2014) 02:00 "Cute Inc." (Wired • Dec 1999) 12:00 Roach's Salon archive 46:00 "Hot Seat" (Discover • Mar 1998) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
  • Episode 459: E. Alex Jung
    E. Alex Jung is a senior writer for Vulture and New York.  ”When I'm in that space, I try to be a sponge. I'll just absorb whatever's happening or going on, and I'll be down to do mostly anything. I was actually thinking recently about what my limits would be in a profile. I was like—heroin? I don't think I would do that.” Show notes: @e_alexjung Jung on Longform Jung's Vulture archive 4:00 "Come as You Are" (The Morning News • Apr 2012) 15:00 "Real Talk With RuPaul" (Vulture • Mar 2016) 18:00 "Bong Joon-ho’s Dystopia Is Already Here" (New York • Oct 2019) 24:00 "Michaela the Destroyer" (New York • Jul 2020) 26:00 "The Joke Was Never on Jennifer Coolidge" (Vulture • Jul 2021) 31:00 "Thandie Newton Is Finally Ready to Speak Her Mind" (Vulture • Jul 2020) 34:00 "The Only One" (Hilton Als • New Yorker • Nov 1994) 39:57 "Anthony Veasna So Knew He Was a Star" (Vulture • Aug 2021) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit
  • Episode 458: Max Chafkin
    Max Chafkin is a features editor and reporter for Bloomberg Businessweek. His new book is The Contrarian: Peter Thiel and Silicon Valley’s Pursuit of Power. “I think there's like a really good way to come up with story ideas where you basically just look for people who have given TED Talks and figure out what they're lying about. And there's also a tendency in the press to pump up these startups based on those stories…. It's worth taking a critical look at these stars of the moment. Because often there's not as much there as we think. And if you’re talking about Theranos or something, there's some potential to do harm—but also it means that maybe more worthwhile efforts are not getting the attention they deserve.” Show notes: @chafkin Chafkin on Longform Chafkin's Bloomberg Businessweek archive 02:00 "Anything Could Happen" (Inc. • Mar 2008) 09:00 "A Broken Place: The Spectacular Failure Of The Startup That Was Going To Change The World" (Fast Company • Apr 2014) 15:00 The Contrarian: Peter Thiel and Silicon Valley’s Pursuit of Power (Penguin Press • 2021) 22:00 Conspiracy: A True Story of Power, Sex, and a Billionaire’s Secret Plot to Destroy a Media Empire (Portfolio • 2019) 25:00 "The Education of a Libertarian" (Peter Thiel • Cato Unbound • Apr 2009) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit

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