Makes Sense - with Dr. JC Doornick

Evan Carmichael turned a year of near silence into one of the biggest YouTube channels for entrepreneurs on the internet, with millions of subscribers. He built and sold a biotech software company and raised venture capital before he ever pressed record. Today he trains thought leaders through his Brandlytics software and his Movement Makers program. In this conversation, we get into why he refuses to chase negativity for views, what it took to survive years of slow growth as a self-described introvert, and the difference between a hook and a pattern interrupt. We also cover the retention mistake that quietly kills great episodes, and how to borrow belief on the days when nothing is working. Stay with me.

Connect With Evan Carmichael:
Website: https://believe.evancarmichael.com/homepage
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@EvanCarmichael
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/evancarmichael/
Book, Built to Serve: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1637583400
Brandlytics: https://evancarmichael.com/brandlytics
Movement Makers: https://believe.evancarmichael.com/contentstrategy

Follow Dr. JC Doornick and the Makes Sense Academy:
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► Facebook: /makessensepodcast
► YouTube: /drjcdoornick

MAKES SENSE PODCAST
Welcome to the Makes Sense with Dr. JC Doornick Podcast. This podcast explores topics that expand human consciousness and enhance performance. On the Makes Sense Podcast, we acknowledge that it’s who you are that determines how well what you do works, and that perception is subjective and an acquired taste. When you change the way you look at things, the things you look at begin to change. Welcome to the uprising of the sleepwalking masses. Welcome to the Makes Sense with Dr. JC Doornick Podcast.

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Kwik Learning: Many people ask me where I get all these topics, which I’ve been covering for almost 15 years. I have learned to read nearly four times faster and retain information 10 times better with Kwik Learning. Learn how to learn and earn with Jim Kwik. Get his program at a special discount here: https://jimkwik.com/dragon

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Operly: Take Back Control of Your Work Day and Get Rid of All Your AI Apps. Welcome to the new world of Time Freedom and Unlimited Scaling and Success with Operly. https://go.getoperly.ai/video?ref=jean-claude-claude-d-2a95

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Timestamps
0:00 - 1:02: Welcome and Show Open
1:02 - 3:49: A Day in the Life of Evan Carmichael and Staying Relevant
3:49 - 6:29: Why Negativity Wins Views and Why Evan Avoids It
6:29 - 10:30: Expecting to Suck, Slow Early Years, and Being an Introvert Who Wants to Serve
10:30 - 14:59: Big Why, Little Why, and the Three Comments
14:59 - 19:22: Hooks, Pattern Interrupts, and the Retention Curve
19:22 - 22:08: What New Creators Get Wrong
22:08 - 25:19: Borrowing Belief on the Days Nothing Works
25:19 - 27:12: The First 2% and Where to Connect With Evan
27:12 - 28:29: Brandlytics, Movement Makers, and Farewell
28:29 - 29:22: Closing Takeaway and Outro

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Yesterday everything was fine. Today they’re cold, they’ve ghosted you, or you find out they’ve been talking about you to everyone but you. In this episode, Dr. JC Doornick takes on “hurt people hurt people” from a different angle: what if the pain isn’t being resolved but transferred, and what if the person on the receiving end has no idea a trial ever took place? He breaks down how perception hardens into a verdict, why certainty replaces curiosity, the difference between a boundary and a punishment, and how the Interface Response System (Perceive, Pause, Process, Proceed) gives reality a chance to enter the room. He also flips the script to what you do when you’re the one being accused. Stay with me.

Follow Dr. JC Doornick and the Makes Sense Academy:
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► YouTube: /drjcdoornick

MAKES SENSE PODCAST
Welcome to the Makes Sense with Dr. JC Doornick Podcast. This podcast explores topics that expand human consciousness and enhance performance. On the Makes Sense Podcast, we acknowledge that it’s who you are that determines how well what you do works, and that perception is subjective and an acquired taste. When you change the way you look at things, the things you look at begin to change. Welcome to the uprising of the sleepwalking masses. Welcome to the Makes Sense with Dr. JC Doornick Podcast.

SUBSCRIBE/RATE/REVIEW & SHARE our new podcast.
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Podcast Affiliates
Kwik Learning: Many people ask me where I get all these topics, which I’ve been covering for almost 15 years. I have learned to read nearly four times faster and retain information 10 times better with Kwik Learning. Learn how to learn and earn with Jim Kwik. Get his program at a special discount here: https://jimkwik.com/dragon

OUR SPONSORS:

Operly - Take Back Control of Your Work Day and Get Rid of All Your AI Apps - Welcome to the new world of Time Freedom and Unlimited Scaling and Success with Operly - https://go.getoperly.ai/video?ref=jean-claude-claude-d-2a95

Blue Blinds Bakery - Handcrafted with all-natural ingredients - https://www.blueblindsbakery.com

Timestamps
0:00 - 1:06: Cold Open: Are You the Villain in Someone Else’s Story?
1:07 - 4:00: Welcome, the Sudden Cold Shoulder, and the Transfer of Pain
4:01 - 7:09: Taking Ownership and Why Accountability Needs Communication
7:10 - 11:00: Reality vs Perception: How Hurt Turns Into a Verdict
11:01 - 13:48: Looking for Evidence and the Hard Way to Deal With Pain
13:49 - 16:13: Retribution, Boundaries vs Punishment, and Certainty Replacing Curiosity
16:14 - 20:30: The Trial They Don’t Know About, Old Wounds, and the Cycle of Pain
20:31 - 23:51: The Interface Response System: Perceive, Pause, Process, Proceed
23:52 - 27:52: Intention vs Impact, Radical Responsibility, and This Week’s Challenge
27:53 - 29:41: Where to Go Next and Closing

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In this Good Shift episode, Dr. JC Doornick takes the term "vibe coding," coined by AI researcher Andrej Karpathy in February 2025 to describe building software by simply describing what you want to an AI, and turns it on its head. Every repeated thought is a line of code, and every algorithm is competing to write the next one for your operating system. Dr. JC explains how convenience quietly turns into surrender, why activity is not agency, and how to tell an authentic desire from an induced one. Then he walks you through the Interface Response System: perceive, pause, process, and proceed.

Follow Dr. JC Doornick and the Makes Sense Academy:

► Makes Sense Substack - https://drjcdoornick.substack.com

► Instagram: /drjcdoornick

► Substack: /drjcdoornick

► Facebook: /makessensepodcast

► YouTube: /drjcdoornick

MAKES SENSE PODCAST

Welcome to the Makes Sense with Dr. JC Doornick Podcast. This podcast explores topics that expand human consciousness and enhance performance. On the Makes Sense Podcast, we acknowledge that it's who you are that determines how well what you do works, and that perception is subjective and an acquired taste. When you change the way you look at things, the things you look at begin to change. Welcome to the uprising of the sleepwalking masses. Welcome to the Makes Sense with Dr. JC Doornick Podcast.

SUBSCRIBE/RATE/REVIEW & SHARE our new podcast.

FOLLOW Podcast: You will find a "Follow" button in the top right. This will enable the podcast software to alert you when a new episode launches each week.

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Podcast Affiliates

Kwik Learning: Many people ask me where I get all these topics, which I've been covering for almost 15 years. I have learned to read nearly four times faster and retain information 10 times better with Kwik Learning. Learn how to learn and earn with Jim Kwik. Get his program at a special discount here: https://jimkwik.com/dragon

OUR SPONSORS

Operly - Take Back Control of Your Work Day and Get Rid of All Your AI Apps - Welcome to the new world of Time Freedom and Unlimited Scaling and Success with Operly - https://go.getoperly.ai/video?ref=jean-claude-claude-d-2a95

Blue Blinds Bakery - Handcrafted with all-natural ingredients - https://www.blueblindsbakery.com

TIMESTAMPS

0:00 - 1:07: Welcome to the Good Shift Series

1:08 - 1:51: Where the Term Vibe Coding Came From

1:52 - 2:25: Every Repeated Thought Is a Line of Code

2:26 - 3:10: From Direct Experience to Systems That Watch Us

3:11 - 4:59: When Convenience Becomes Surrender

5:00 - 6:05: ChatGPT, Blind Spots, and Selective Perception

6:06 - 7:18: The Pause and the Interface Response System

7:19 - 8:16: Becoming a Conscious Vibe Coder

8:17 - 9:00: Closing Thoughts and Outro

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Jill Schulman was one of the first women to lead in Marine Corps combat engineering. She then turned a career in pharma and corporate leadership development into a master's in positive psychology at Penn, and she has trained more than 30,000 leaders around one idea: action creates confidence. Her book, The Bravery Effect, delivers that science as a parable. In this conversation, she and I make sense of why waiting until you feel ready is a trap, what a terrifying obstacle course taught her about fear, and why bravery is a skill anyone can build. You will also hear the one small step you can put on your calendar for tomorrow. Stay with me.

Connect With Jill Schulman:
Website: https://www.jillschulman.com
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jillschulman
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jillaschulman
Book: The Bravery Effect (Greenleaf Book Group, 2025): https://www.amazon.com/Bravery-Effect-Teaching-Conquering-Achieving/dp/B0F2BBPR35
Free audiobook offer mentioned in the episode: link not found, to be supplied by Jill's team

Follow Dr. JC Doornick and the Makes Sense Academy:

► Makes Sense Substack - https://drjcdoornick.substack.com

► Instagram: /drjcdoornick

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► Facebook: /makessensepodcast

► YouTube: /drjcdoornick

MAKES SENSE PODCAST
Welcome to the Makes Sense with Dr. JC Doornick Podcast. This podcast explores topics that expand human consciousness and enhance performance. On the Makes Sense Podcast, we acknowledge that it's who you are that determines how well what you do works, and that perception is subjective and an acquired taste. When you change the way you look at things, the things you look at begin to change. Welcome to the uprising of the sleepwalking masses. Welcome to the Makes Sense with Dr. JC Doornick Podcast.

SUBSCRIBE/RATE/REVIEW & SHARE our new podcast.
FOLLOW Podcast: You will find a "Follow" button in the top right. This will enable the podcast software to alert you when a new episode launches each week.
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Podcast Affiliates
Kwik Learning: Many people ask me where I get all these topics, which I've been covering for almost 15 years. I have learned to read nearly four times faster and retain information 10 times better with Kwik Learning. Learn how to learn and earn with Jim Kwik. Get his program at a special discount here: https://jimkwik.com/dragon

OUR SPONSORS
Operly - Take Back Control of Your Work Day and Get Rid of All Your AI Apps - Welcome to the new world of Time Freedom and Unlimited Scaling and Success with Operly - https://go.getoperly.ai/video?ref=jean-claude-claude-d-2a95
Blue Blinds Bakery - Handcrafted with all-natural ingredients - https://www.blueblindsbakery.com

Timestamps
0:00 - 1:23: Cold Open and Welcome
1:23 - 3:25: What Life Feels Like Now: A Healthy Obsession
3:25 - 6:01: Pruning Good Work to Make Room for Great
6:01 - 8:34: Day One in the Marine Corps: Pink Polka Dots and "You Will Never Make It"
8:34 - 11:50: Bravery in Little Moments and Holding Yourself to the Marine Standard
11:50 - 15:07: Combat Engineering and Learning to Get Punched in the Face
15:07 - 19:36: From Pharma to Penn: Positive Psychology and the Problem of Fear
19:36 - 23:28: Bravery Defined and Why Action Builds Confidence
23:28 - 27:14: The Slide for Life and Fear as a Signpost
27:14 - 29:17: Why Jill Grabbed the Rope: Ask Your Future Self
29:17 - 33:03: Surround Yourself With People Who Call Forth Your Best
33:03 - 37:35: Bravery Myths: Built Not Born, and Fear Is a Good Sign
37:35 - 41:01: Your First Small Brave Step: Plan It and Put It on the Calendar
41:01 - 42:56: Why The Bravery Effect Is a Parable
42:56 - 46:52: Difficult Conversations, Imposter Syndrome, and Studying Other People's Journeys
46:52 - 47:39: The One Sentence to Remember
47:39 - 49:24: Where to Find Jill and Her Free Book Offer
49:24 - 50:15: Closing Thoughts

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Even Dr. JC Doornick is not immune. One presentation was all it took to send his mind spiraling into doubt, comparison, and the question every high achiever quietly fears: what if I am not as good as I think I am? Then he did something small that changed the whole story. In this episode, he shows you the one move that puts you back in the driver's seat, and why it might be the most underrated skill in a world that never stops handing you answers. The people who learn this are the ones who stay sharp, stay calm, and stay ahead. And one more thing: you are going to want to hear how this one ends.

Follow Dr. JC Doornick and the Makes Sense Academy:
► Makes Sense Substack - https://drjcdoornick.substack.com
► Instagram: /drjcdoornick
► Substack: /drjcdoornick
► Facebook: /makessensepodcast
► YouTube: /drjcdoornick
MAKES SENSE PODCAST
Welcome to the Makes Sense with Dr. JC Doornick Podcast. This podcast explores topics that expand human consciousness and enhance performance. On the Makes Sense Podcast, we acknowledge that it's who you are that determines how well what you do works, and that perception is subjective and an acquired taste. When you change the way you look at things, the things you look at begin to change. Welcome to the uprising of the sleepwalking masses. Welcome to the Makes Sense with Dr. JC Doornick Podcast.

SUBSCRIBE/RATE/REVIEW & SHARE our new podcast.
FOLLOW Podcast: You will find a "Follow" button in the top right. This will enable the podcast software to alert you when a new episode launches each week.
Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/makes-sense-with-dr-jc-doornick/id1730954168
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1WHfKWDDReMtrGFz4kkZs9?si=003780ca147c4aec

Podcast Affiliates
Kwik Learning: Many people ask me where I get all these topics, which I've been covering for almost 15 years. I have learned to read nearly four times faster and retain information 10 times better with Kwik Learning. Learn how to learn and earn with Jim Kwik. Get his program at a special discount here: https://jimkwik.com/dragon

OUR SPONSORS
Operly - Take Back Control of Your Work Day and Get Rid of All Your AI Apps - Welcome to the new world of Time Freedom and Unlimited Scaling and Success with Operly - https://go.getoperly.ai/video?ref=jean-claude-claude-d-2a95
Blue Blinds Bakery - Handcrafted with all-natural ingredients - https://www.blueblindsbakery.com

Timestamps
0:00 - 1:09: Cold Open and Welcome to the Podcast
1:10 - 4:49: How a Presentation Triggered 60 Seconds of Comparison
4:50 - 7:37: Catching the Thought and Saying Hmm
7:38 - 11:01: What Else Might Be True and What Is Your Superpower
11:02 - 13:29: The Need for Cognitive Closure and Intellectual Humility
13:30 - 17:25: Trait Curiosity, State Curiosity, and the Longevity Research
17:26 - 19:09: Why Better Questions Matter in an AI Driven World
19:10 - 21:59: Currency, the Currency of Care, and the State of Carelessness
22:00 - 25:08: Staying Present, Saying "I Don't Know," and the Closing Challenge
25:09 - 25:52: Outro and Call to Action
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