Something Was Wrong

*Content Warning: infidelity, physical abuse, intimate partner violence, domestic violence, and murder.
Jenn Holman is a survivor, mother, and faithful family woman living in Idaho by way of Southern California. Jenn’s path first crossed with Amy Chesler’s over eighteen years ago when she began dating Amy’s brother. Jenn has chosen to address him as Jesse in this episode, although Amy referred to her brother as ‘Rory’ in Something Was Wrong Season 7. Jenn’s relationship with Jesse began a year and a few months prior to Amy’s mother’s murder. Although Amy was privy to a portion of what Jenn will share in this conversation, some of the more explicit details of the abuse Jenn faced evaded them as a family. Through this interview, Amy also learned a lot more about the night her mother was murdered. Amy is grateful for Jenn’s bravery in sharing, and is personally deeply grateful she was willing to divulge so much about her experiences. It may have taken Amy & Jenn nearly eighteen years to have this conversation, but as Hippocrates said, “Healing is a matter of time, but it is sometimes also a matter of opportunity.”
Related Links:
- Jenn on X: https://x.com/jennjenn10
- Season 7 of Something Was Wrong: https://somethingwaswrong.com/season-7/
- [WCN Presents] SWW Season 7 Updates Part 1: https://podcasts.apple.com/zw/podcast/amy-b-chesler-evil-lives-here-this-sh-t-doesnt-end/id1674051643?i=1000602598564
- [WCN Presents] SWW Season 7 Updates Part 2: https://podcasts.apple.com/zw/podcast/amy-b-chesler-evil-lives-here-the-darkest-times-are/id1674051643?i=1000612743331
- Petition: Keep Jesse Winnick in Prison: https://www.change.org/p/sign-to-keep-jesse-winnick-in-prison-in-loving-memory-of-hadas-winnick
- Evil Lives Here: Season 11, Episode 2 - “What if He Gets Out?” https://www.hbomax.com/is/en/shows/evil-lives-here/s11/92560c9b-551c-4fe8-82aa-ae5e023e2d69/e2-what-if-he-gets-out/5d9627e6-fdd8-40f3-8d48-c07e5fdfac0c
- I’m Related to a Killer: Season 1, Episode 1 - “Jesse Winnick”
https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/B0DG1DJQG9/ref=atv_hm_hom_c_lZOsi7_1_34?jic=8%7CEgNhbGw%3D
- HBO Max’s Toxic, Season 2, Episode 1 - “Don’t Go Home”
https://www.hbomax.com/show/33977981-2e30-45d2-98c6-3145f9c40b33/s2
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*Content Warning: abduction, domestic violence, intimate partner violence, gun violence, and murder.
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*Content Warning: sexual assault, rideshare-facilitated sexual assault, fatphobia, and rape.
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*Sources: 
- Associated Press. “Uber Liable for Sexual Assault of Passenger, Jury Finds.” AP News, 2 Apr. 2024, https://apnews.com/article/uber-sexual-assault-liable-f2aaf57a2b88948107acfcf11ebc0813.
- Bousso, Ron. “Lyft Reports More Than 4,000 Sexual Assaults in 2019 Safety Report.” Fortune, 22 Oct. 2021, https://fortune.com/2021/10/22/lyft-4000-sexual-assaults-2019-safety-report.
- California Secretary of State. “California Secretary of State Shirley N. Weber, Ph.D., Announces Proponent Withdraws Initiative to Expand Liability and Impose Duties on Rideshare Companies Regarding Sexual Misconduct.” California Secretary of State, 25 June 2026, https://www.sos.ca.gov/administration/news-releases-and-advisories/2026-news-releases-and-advisories/california-secretary-state-shirley-n-weber-phd-announces-proponent-withdraws-initiative-expand-liability-and-impose-duties-rides.
- “CNN: 103 Uber Drivers Accused of Sexual Assault or Abuse.” CBS News, 30 Apr. 2018, https://www.cbsnews.com/sanfrancisco/news/cnn-103-uber-drivers-accused-of-sexual-assault-or-abuse/.
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- Uber. “U.S. Safety Report.” Uber, https://www.uber.com/us/en/about/reports/us-safety-report

- “Uber Faces Lawsuit Over Alleged Sexual Assaults by Drivers.” Los Angeles Times, 21 July 2016, https://www.latimes.com/business/technology/la-fi-tn-uber-la-assault-20160721-snap-story.html

- U.S. Government Accountability Office. Ridesharing and Taxi Safety: Information on Assaults against Drivers and Passengers. GAO-24-106742, 22 Feb. 2024, https://www.gao.gov/products/gao-24-106742.
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*Content Warning: religious trauma, grooming, child sexual abuse material, sexual assault, and rape.
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*Content Warning: friendship betrayal, stalking, fraud, mental illness, factitious disorder, staged pregnancy, pregnancy loss, miscarriage, mature themes, false reporting, sexual assault, rape, self-harm, and suicidal ideation. 
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