It Was What It Was : The Football History Podcast

• British Society: Through The Lens of Football

  Welcome to It Was What It Was, the football history podcast. Co-hosts Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper are joined by special guest and historian David Goldblatt. In this episode, they discuss David's new book, 'Injury Time,' which examines the impact of recent seismic events like Brexit, COVID-19, and populism on football in Britain. They delve into the popularity of football despite its numerous challenges, the economic disparities within the game, and the global obsession with the Premier League. The conversation also touches on the significance of football as a cultural and political space, the rise of women's football, and the ethical concerns surrounding state ownership of clubs. They also examine the role of fans and community. This episode provides a comprehensive look at the current state and the future of the beautiful game.00:00 Introduction 00:55 The State of Football Today03:21 Football as a National Obsession07:41 Globalisation and Football's Cultural Impact19:12 Economic Disparities in Football21:35 Football Reflecting Social Inequalities29:50 Football's Role in Social and Political Issues31:20 The Role of Football in Society33:38 Economic Inequality in Football36:50 The Super League Controversy41:25 Cultural Resistance and Football's Future54:42 The Impact of COVID on Football59:20 State Involvement in Football01:02:11 Conclusion and Final Thoughts Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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• The Russian Pele: The Scandal of Eduard Streltsov | Part Two

  Welcome to It Was What It Was, the football history podcast. Co-hosts Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper look into the dark and controversial period of Streltsov’s life. In this second part we cover the heinous crime that Streltsov was accused of, the subsequent trial and conviction, and his years in the Gulag. Despite the damning evidence, Streltsov's eventual return to football and continued popularity are explored, along with the societal implications and unresolved questions surrounding his story. Join us for a detailed look at both the fall and unexpected resurgence of a man once considered the 'Russian Pele.’This episode contains discussion of sexual abuse and rape, which some listeners may find distressing. If you’ve been affected by any of the issues raised, the NHS provides a list of support services and resources here:https://www.nhs.uk/live-well/sexual-health/help-after-rape-and-sexual-assault00:00 A Dark Story Unfolds00:31 The Accusation and Confession04:50 The Aftermath and Public Reaction05:40 Evidence and Forensic Details07:05 The State's Role 08:22 Personal Struggles and Downfall23:42 Speculations and Suspicions26:14 The Case Against Streltsov28:14 The Soviet State's Role30:31 Marina's Disappearance32:08 Life in the Gulag40:15 Streltsov’s Return to Football48:21 Legacy and Controversy52:06 Conclusion Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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• The Russian Pele: The Scandal of Eduard Streltsov | Part One

  Welcome to It Was What It Was, the football history podcast. Co-hosts Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper delve into the story of Eduard Streltsov, the 'Russian Pele'. In the first part of this two-part series, we trace Streltsov's meteoric rise from a poor upbringing to becoming a celebrated football talent. Witness his groundbreaking performances, his early brush with fame, and the personal flaws that began to unravel his career. Discover the events leading up to the fateful allegations that would ultimately tarnish his legacy. Join us as we unveil the complexities and the promises cut short in the life of one of Soviet football's most enigmatic figures.This episode contains discussion of sexual abuse and rape, which some listeners may find distressing. If you’ve been affected by any of the issues raised, the NHS provides a list of support services and resources here:https://www.nhs.uk/live-well/sexual-health/help-after-rape-and-sexual-assault00:00 Introduction03:38 The Soviet Football Landscape in the 1950s09:35 Streltsov's Early Life and Family Background16:31 Streltsov's Football Career Takes Off20:40 The 1956 Olympics and Missed Opportunities25:17 The Medal That Never Was27:01 The Downfall Begins30:37 A Pattern of Trouble49:50 Streltsov's Arrest50:12 Confession and Public Outcry Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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• Imre Hirschl: The Hungarian Trailblazer of South American Football | Part Two

  Welcome back to It Was What It Was, the football history podcast. Co-hosts Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper continue the extraordinary story of Imre Hirschl, the Hungarian who revolutionised South American football. In this second part, we look into Hirschl's impact on Uruguay's historic 1950 World Cup victory and his innovative tactics at Club Atlético Peñarol and River Plate. Discover how Hirschl's genius and controversial methods shaped football history, transforming teams and leaving a lasting legacy on the footballing world. 00:45 The Tactical Mastermind Behind Uruguay's Success01:55 Controversial Matches and Referee Decisions05:20 The Dominance of the Big Five in Argentinian Football08:37 Hirschl's move to River Plate 11:59 Tactical Evolution and Direct Play16:55 Hircshl’s Downfall and Match-Fixing Allegations21:06 Return to Coaching and Success in Uruguay28:22 Strict Discipline and Unique Methods29:09 Young Players and Team Dynamics31:14 Campaign for National Coach31:59 Political Disputes and Appointments33:22 World Cup Preparations and Chaos35:43 Uruguay's Tactical Genius37:11 The Shocking World Cup Final43:48 Aftermath and Legacy44:58 Hirschl's Influence and Final Years Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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• Imre Hirschl: The Hungarian Trailblazer of South American Football | Part One

  Welcome to It Was What It Was, the football history podcast. Co-hosts Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper deep dive into the extraordinary story of Imre Hirschl, the Hungarian who took South American football by storm. In this first part of a two-part series we hear the story of Hirschl's early life, his emigration to South America, and his unexpected rise to coaching fame in Argentina. From starting as a salami salesman to becoming the mastermind behind Gimnasia y Esgrima La Plata's success, Hirschl's tale is one of perseverance, innovation, and tactical genius. Tune in to discover the myths, challenges, and triumphs of this unlikely football legend who redefined the game during the early 20th century.00:00 The Unlikely Beginnings of a Coaching Legend03:46 The Hungarian Influence on South American Football07:59 Unraveling the Myths and Realities09:40 A Journey Through War and Immigration16:29 The Butcher Turned Football Visionary21:55 The Mystery of Hirschl's Football Career24:38 Meeting Béla Guttmann and the Next Chapter26:21 Hirschl's Coaching Journey Begins28:14 Tactical Innovations and Success30:21 Challenges and Triumphs in Argentina31:14 Early Coaching Stint in Brazil32:42 Struggles and Determination42:21 Hirschl's Coaching Philosophy46:48 Building a Winning Team49:32 Conclusion and Future Prospects Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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