Michael Hingson was on the 78th floor of the North Tower of the World Trade Center on September 11, 2001. He says the first indication that something was wrong was the sound of a muffled explosion. Then the building began to tilt, and he felt the floor drop like an elevator. But Michael Hingson didn’t panic because his guide dog, Roselle, was calm. 
 
Michael Hingson’s book is <a href="https://www.thomasnelson.com/9781400204724/thunder-dog/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Thunder Dog</a>.

Listen to other episodes of This is Love at <a href="https://thisislovepodcast.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://thisislovepodcast.com/</a>.

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Episode 172: Roselle and Michael

Today's episode begins with rock &amp; roll and ends with royalty. When bands like the Rolling Stones and the Beatles were becoming popular, they weren't played much on the radio in England. The BBC controlled the airwaves at the time, and some listeners described its music offerings as "square." So aspiring DJs packed up their record collections, got in boats, and sailed past the territorial limits of the UK, where they set up pirate radio stations in the sea—sometimes on abandoned WWII sea forts. One fort was taken over by a man named Roy Bates. When his pirate radio station didn’t work out, he refused to give up the fort. He raised a flag on it and announced that he and his family would be forming their own nation. A spokesperson from Britain's Ministry of Defence said: "This is ludicrous.”

Michael Bates’ book is <a href="https://sealandgov.org/shop/holding-the-fort-by-michael-of-sealand/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Principality of Sealand: Holding the Fort</a>, and Dylan Taylor-Lehman’s book is <a href="https://diversionbooks.com/books/sealand/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Sealand: The True Story of the World’s Most Stubborn Micronation and Its Eccentric Royal Family</a>.

For a transcript of this episode, send an email to <a href="mailto:transcripts@thisiscriminal.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">transcripts@thisiscriminal.com</a> with the episode name and number. Say hello on <a href="https://twitter.com/CriminalShow" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Twitter</a>, <a href="https://www.facebook.com/ThisIsCriminal/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Facebook</a> and <a href="https://www.instagram.com/criminal_podcast/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Instagram</a>. Sign up for our occasional newsletter, <a href="http://thisiscriminal.us13.list-manage.com/subscribe?u=25658e45f07309154fbf5f23f&amp;id=a7d08cb6bd" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">The Accomplice.</a> Artwork by <a href="http://www.yssrs.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Julienne Alexander</a>.

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Episode 171: Sealand

"The phone rang and rang and a lady picked up on the other end and I still remember the operator saying, 'You have a collect call from Ian for Debbie. Will you accept the charges?' And I remember Debbie saying, 'Yes, I accept.' And I just remember blurting out, 'Ms. Baigrie, I just called to wish you and your family a merry Christmas and to apologize for shooting you.'"

At 14 years old, Ian Manuel was sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole, and spent an estimated 18 years in solitary confinement. Today, he tells his story.

His book is <a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/610493/my-time-will-come-by-ian-manuel/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">My Time Will Come</a>. 
 
You can listen to our full conversation with Bryan Stevenson in <a href="https://thisiscriminal.com/episode-45-just-mercy-6-17-2016" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Episode 46: Just Mercy.</a>

For a transcript of this episode, send an email to <a href="mailto:transcripts@thisiscriminal.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">transcripts@thisiscriminal.com</a> with the episode name and number. Say hello on <a href="https://twitter.com/CriminalShow" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Twitter</a>, <a href="https://www.facebook.com/ThisIsCriminal/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Facebook</a> and <a href="https://www.instagram.com/criminal_podcast/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Instagram</a>. Sign up for our occasional newsletter, <a href="http://thisiscriminal.us13.list-manage.com/subscribe?u=25658e45f07309154fbf5f23f&amp;id=a7d08cb6bd" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">The Accomplice.</a> Artwork by <a href="http://www.yssrs.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Julienne Alexander</a>.

Learn more about our upcoming live shows at <a href="https://thisiscriminal.com/about/#live" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">thisiscriminal.com/live</a>. 
 
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Episode 170: Ian Manuel

The story of a cryptic children’s book, a real-life treasure hunt, and its very mysterious winner: “He refused to be on camera. It’s just his voice. His wife even asks that they disguise his voice, but she asks too late. The interview is already happening. And she faints.”

For a transcript of this episode, send an email to <a href="mailto:transcripts@thisiscriminal.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">transcripts@thisiscriminal.com</a> with the episode name and number. Say hello on <a href="https://twitter.com/CriminalShow" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Twitter</a>, <a href="https://www.facebook.com/ThisIsCriminal/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Facebook</a> and <a href="https://www.instagram.com/criminal_podcast/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Instagram</a>. Sign up for our occasional newsletter, <a href="http://thisiscriminal.us13.list-manage.com/subscribe?u=25658e45f07309154fbf5f23f&amp;id=a7d08cb6bd" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">The Accomplice.</a> Artwork by <a href="http://www.yssrs.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Julienne Alexander</a>.

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Episode 169: Masquerade

This episode picks up where <a href="https://thisiscriminal.com/episode-167-48-hours-6-18-21" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Episode 167</a> left off. We suggest you listen to them in order.

When Aaron Quinn called the Vallejo police to report that his girlfriend Denise Huskins had been kidnapped, and went into the station for questioning, a detective told Aaron that he didn't believe him. When Denise was released after being held captive for about 48 hours, police didn't believe her either. It soon became clear that the police viewed Denise and Aaron as suspects, not victims. 
 
Denise Huskins and Aaron Quinn’s book is <a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/617482/victim-f-by-denise-huskins-and-aaron-quinn-with-nicole-weisensee-egan/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Victim F</a>.

For a transcript of this episode, send an email to <a href="mailto:transcripts@thisiscriminal.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">transcripts@thisiscriminal.com</a> with the episode name and number. Say hello on <a href="https://twitter.com/CriminalShow" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Twitter</a>, <a href="https://www.facebook.com/ThisIsCriminal/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Facebook</a> and <a href="https://www.instagram.com/criminal_podcast/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Instagram</a>. Sign up for our occasional newsletter, <a href="http://thisiscriminal.us13.list-manage.com/subscribe?u=25658e45f07309154fbf5f23f&amp;id=a7d08cb6bd" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">The Accomplice.</a> Artwork by <a href="http://www.yssrs.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Julienne Alexander</a>.

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